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    Look, what makes you think Iodine is directly involved in the pathogenesis of rheumatoid arthritis, an autoimmune disease which arguably has its origins in gut permeability? Do you have journal articles you can cite on the Iodine involvement?

    The loundry list you came up with could fit just about any condition. Iodine deficiency can be peripherally involved but doesn't seem to be the main cause here. You may think it may be involved because of your own particular circumstances but it's not wise to make wild inferences like this. Know your limits when you recommend recourses to someone you don't know for a condition you don't have a full knowledge of.

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    Your assumption is incorrect. Your body needs > 12mg of iodine daily, and unless you are eating several large meals a week of seafood & seaweed a week
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    Quote Originally Posted by choppedliver View Post
    Look, what makes you think Iodine is directly involved in the pathogenesis of rheumatoid arthritis, an autoimmune disease which arguably has its origins in gut permeability? Do you have journal articles you can cite on the Iodine involvement?

    The loundry list you came up with could fit just about any condition. Iodine deficiency can be peripherally involved but doesn't seem to be the main cause here. You may think it may be involved because of your own particular circumstances but it's not wise to make wild inferences like this. Know your limits when you recommend recourses to someone you don't know for a condition you don't have a full knowledge of.


    Grizz goes through phases like this. Right now it's iodine. Last year he jumped on every thread about every malady and told them that whatever they had was positively caused by a deficiency in Vitamin D. Before that I think it was Vitamin C but I'm not sure. It all starts sounding alike. A long list of ailments that are very generic and lots of references to blogs who are all selling their books and their supplements by selling the fear that there is an EPIDEMIC of CRISIS proportions. Please.

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    RA is an autoimmune disease & 75% of cases are in women,
    Firsty confirm by blood test to diagnose accurately if it is RA or another autoimmune condition.
    If it is autoimmune (RA or other) my experience (partner autoimmune Graves disease) would leat towards a two pronged approach:
    1/ Treat the sypmtoms to improve quality of life, like eating sulphur rich vegetables, cartilage & bone stock, anything to support the joints & reduce inflamation, epsom salt (Magnesium Sulphate) baths are supposed to help quite a bit.
    2/ I lean toward the nutrition and gut health camp, so engage a Naturopath to help put together an appropriate diet and supplement program to heal the gut.
    Paleo diet is a good basis, but it is a very wide scale, so should your wife be on a animal heavy or plant heavy paleo diet?
    If you have a chronic disease in the family, someone needs to take on board the specialist role and start doing research, return to health is unlikely to succeed if you leave it to an outsider, it becomes a part of your life and the sooner you take that on board the sooner you will return to good health.

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    This is completely unscientific, just something I have observed in a few people on the forums and formed my own little superstitious feeling about.
    I have seen some people, several weeks after they start primal, suddenly have something serious happen with their health. Stroke, heart attack, kidney things.
    Your wife will probably now make it into my mental file of examples(like I told you, it is unscientific, I am not counting).
    The trying to make sense of things without having to work at it part of brain has come up with this:
    Living on CW and SAD puts us into a certain poor condition, but if we're lucky(so to speak) we find a level that we get used to, and accept as normal health.
    Then we start treating our bodies right. The right kind of food, sleep, exercise.
    It feels great, but at the same time, it is a major shake up for our bodies. I know it is not this way, but I literally imagine things getting shaken off the walls of my arteries, being bumped into, having new spaces they never had before. And this seems like it could cause problems. Plaque giving you a stroke. Nerves freaking out.
    This worried me, but at the same time, made me feel like if I could get past the adjustment, my body would be able to deal with it.
    I hope my strange little theory is at least emotionally helpful. If not, well, there are a lot of whackos on the internet, and I'm probably one of them.
    Good luck to y'all in figuring out what is wrong and getting better!

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    Go on the GAPS diet. Your gut is compromised, leading to autoimmunity.

    (don't be scared of the source of this article. GAPS is not associated with any religion, it was created by a neurosurgeon)
    GAPS (Gut and Psychology Syndrome)

    Healing Rheumatoid Arthritis on GAPS Diet: Elli Sparks 01/11 by BethWiles | Blog Talk Radio
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    ‘THE FOOD YOU EAT CAN BE THE SAFEST AND MOST POWERFUL FORM OF MEDICINE OR THE SLOWEST RELEASING POISON' - Dr Ann Wigmore.

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