are omega 3 fish oils really that healthy? page 2

[Forgotmylastusername]

I noticed the difference in my skin within a week. I'm couldn't be bothered digging it up but their is vast research on the benefits on fish oil. Getting it from natural sources is obviously better but I don't like seafood besides a bit of salmon so I take CLO a few times a week.

[fiercehunter]

I'm sceptical about the benefits of fish oil supplements and have never taken them, but I love eating oily fish almost daily. That's mostly wild alaskan salmon, but also trout and sea bass. I feel such a health boost from eating it and when I'm away from home and can't access much fresh oily fish I really feel it. I can't tolerate eating much tinned fish, unfortunately.

I ate cold water fish pretty much daily throughout the 2000s, 2002-2012, a full 10 years. I believe consuming so much fish damaged my thyroid, sped up perimenopause and wrecked me health. Have just discontinued recently and feel better than I have in years; will likely never eat salmon or sardines regularly again.
The Painful Truth About Omega 3 Fatty Acids

Omega 3 fatty acids do have anti-inflammatory effects in the body, but these anti-inflammatory effects are short lived. And there may be long term pro-inflammatory effects associated with their consumption.

I agree.

[fiercehunter]

Just found this:
Re: Omega-3: The killer oils

Only by spending billions of dollars has Agri-business been able to
convince us that soy, phytoestrogens, and omega 3 (as well as omega 6)
fatty acids are good for us, when in fact ...

THEY ARE THE MOST DEADLY OF ANTI-METABOLITES.

Several months ago, after years of going in circles regarding omega
3 fatty acids, I finally did what I should have done years earlier -
an exhaustive literature search on ALA, EPA, and DHA. The results of
that search left me red faced with embarrassment. All I can do now is
face the truth, and pass that truth along to you. And that truth is,
quite simply, that ...

OMEGA 3 OILS ARE EVEN MORE DAMAGING
THAN OMEGA 6 OILS.

Re: Omega-3: The killer oils

IT IS THE OXIDIZED OMEGA 3 FATTY ACIDS
THAT HAVE THE ANTI-INFLAMMATORY EFFECTS.

The obvious problem here is that these anti-inflammatory effects
are short-lived, while the oxidative free radical damage that ensues
has devastating long term consequences. In experiments that last only
weeks to months, seemingly beneficial anti-inflammatory effects can be
documented. However, in these short-term studies there is no time for
the experimental subjects to show the immuno-suppressive damage, lipid
peroxidative damage, light sensitizing damage, anti-mitochondrial
effects, depressed aerobic energy production, lipofuscin age pigment
production, liver damage, brain damage, and metastatic cancer that
result from long-term intake of fish oils and other sources of omega
free fatty acids.

Re: Omega-3: The killer oils

“WHAT ABOUT THE ESKIMO DIET?!!”

Everyone “knows” (thanks to the PUFA propaganda machine) that
Eskimos had no cardiovascular disease, little cancer, no arthritis, no
tooth decay, no allergies, etc., etc., and that their good health
resulted from a diet of salmon, seal, and whale --- all high in EPA
and DHA. [The propaganda machine ignores that there were many
traditional cultures similarly free of degenerative diseases that
never saw a salmon, a seal, or a whale, and that consumed no more
omega 3 fatty acids than the typical modern American slob. ( --- The
best nutrition book ever written is Weston Price’s “Nutrition and
Physical Degeneration.” Everyone should read it three times --- at age
12, at age 17, then again when ready to have a family.)] Let us expose
this later vintage health food industry mythology for the fraud that
it is.

The truth is, Eskimos were free of many degenerative diseases in
spite of, not because of, their damaging n-3 intake. In fact, the n-3s
are the only negative in an otherwise perfect (for their metabolic
type) diet.

Claiming that fish oil was responsible for the Eskimos freedom
from degenerative disease is even more absurd than the claim that
yogurt was the key to the Hunza’s longevity. Salmon, a reasonable food
in moderation, if part of an eating plan extraordinary in every other
way, comes with a huge warning label: “MAY CONTAIN AS MUCH AS 10%
OMEGA 3 FATTY ACIDS --- known to accelerate aging and increase the
risk of cardiovascular disease and cancer.”

[Gadsie]

Just found this:
Re: Omega-3: The killer oils

Only by spending billions of dollars has Agri-business been able to
convince us that soy, phytoestrogens, and omega 3 (as well as omega 6)
fatty acids are good for us, when in fact ...

THEY ARE THE MOST DEADLY OF ANTI-METABOLITES.

Several months ago, after years of going in circles regarding omega
3 fatty acids, I finally did what I should have done years earlier -
an exhaustive literature search on ALA, EPA, and DHA. The results of
that search left me red faced with embarrassment. All I can do now is
face the truth, and pass that truth along to you. And that truth is,
quite simply, that ...

OMEGA 3 OILS ARE EVEN MORE DAMAGING
THAN OMEGA 6 OILS.

Re: Omega-3: The killer oils

IT IS THE OXIDIZED OMEGA 3 FATTY ACIDS
THAT HAVE THE ANTI-INFLAMMATORY EFFECTS.

The obvious problem here is that these anti-inflammatory effects
are short-lived, while the oxidative free radical damage that ensues
has devastating long term consequences. In experiments that last only
weeks to months, seemingly beneficial anti-inflammatory effects can be
documented. However, in these short-term studies there is no time for
the experimental subjects to show the immuno-suppressive damage, lipid
peroxidative damage, light sensitizing damage, anti-mitochondrial
effects, depressed aerobic energy production, lipofuscin age pigment
production, liver damage, brain damage, and metastatic cancer that
result from long-term intake of fish oils and other sources of omega
free fatty acids.

Re: Omega-3: The killer oils

“WHAT ABOUT THE ESKIMO DIET?!!”

Everyone “knows” (thanks to the PUFA propaganda machine) that
Eskimos had no cardiovascular disease, little cancer, no arthritis, no
tooth decay, no allergies, etc., etc., and that their good health
resulted from a diet of salmon, seal, and whale --- all high in EPA
and DHA. [The propaganda machine ignores that there were many
traditional cultures similarly free of degenerative diseases that
never saw a salmon, a seal, or a whale, and that consumed no more
omega 3 fatty acids than the typical modern American slob. ( --- The
best nutrition book ever written is Weston Price’s “Nutrition and
Physical Degeneration.” Everyone should read it three times --- at age
12, at age 17, then again when ready to have a family.)] Let us expose
this later vintage health food industry mythology for the fraud that
it is.

The truth is, Eskimos were free of many degenerative diseases in
spite of, not because of, their damaging n-3 intake. In fact, the n-3s
are the only negative in an otherwise perfect (for their metabolic
type) diet.

Claiming that fish oil was responsible for the Eskimos freedom
from degenerative disease is even more absurd than the claim that
yogurt was the key to the Hunza’s longevity. Salmon, a reasonable food
in moderation, if part of an eating plan extraordinary in every other
way, comes with a huge warning label: “MAY CONTAIN AS MUCH AS 10%
OMEGA 3 FATTY ACIDS --- known to accelerate aging and increase the
risk of cardiovascular disease and cancer.”

Isn't it about balance between 3 and 6?