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    High Cholesterol and terrified!

    Just had my cholesterol results since eating primal and I am so shocked I burst into tears.
    Ive looked in the archive for messages about cholesterol levels but I dont understand them as Im in the UK and we seem to have a different way of reading them that other countries.

    In 2007 my serum levels were 4.7. Today it was 9.0!! My HDL is 2.19 mmol/L

    What on earth can I do about this? I dont eat a huge amount of fat but it is from dairy, meat and coconut.
    Why has this happened?

    Im petrified!
    I'm not a complete idiot! There's parts missing!!

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    Ok, I just plugged those into a converter.
    That's 348 total cholesterol up from 181, and hdl is currently 84.

    I am not an expert, but that definitely sounds worryingly high, and dare I say more than just diet high. Do you have your LDL and triglyceride numbers? On primal you should have relatively low triglycerides, which is good. If the bulk of your cholesterol is made up of LDL then there might be something fishy going on. I believe there are some people on this forum who have diseases that cause this. I hope they spot this thread.
    This stuff can be genetic. Do you have any family history of hugely high cholesterol?

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    Thanks for your reply Sleepyroots. My triglyceride levels are 1.75 mmol/L
    That has come back as high too.

    Also, I thought HDL was meant to be high, but it states its too high.
    Im terrified Im going to have aq heart attack any minute!

    Im not keen on taking statins but I cant see any other solution. As far as I know, no other member of my family has crazily high cholesterol. I weight 142lbs so Im not enormously overweight. My sister is a big girl but her cholesterol is not as high as mine but she eats a 'normal' diet
    I'm not a complete idiot! There's parts missing!!

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    Don't fret, read this to follow the numbers (Griff's cholesterol primer 2)

    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread4723.html

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    Your HDL is very good. However both trigs and LDL are high. This is a bad combination. You need to work on lowering the trigs. LDL is generally a bit of a mystery. It is not clear that high LDL by itself is a problem, but it definitely is with high trigs. High LDL can have genetic causes, dietary causes and is associated with hypothyroidism. Definitely get your thyroid tested before considering statins.

    And eat clean paleo to lower the trigs. At the moment, you can't afford to cheat
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    Quote Originally Posted by peril View Post
    Your HDL is very good. However both trigs and LDL are high. This is a bad combination. You need to work on lowering the trigs. LDL is generally a bit of a mystery. It is not clear that high LDL by itself is a problem, but it definitely is with high trigs. High LDL can have genetic causes, dietary causes and is associated with hypothyroidism. Definitely get your thyroid tested before considering statins.

    And eat clean paleo to lower the trigs. At the moment, you can't afford to cheat
    Im confused. (again!) I thought my HDL was really bad!
    Also, I thought trigs were good things to have, such as MCT oil and coconut oil. Do I need to cut these out?
    I'm not a complete idiot! There's parts missing!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattybag View Post
    Im confused. (again!) I thought my HDL was really bad!
    No, the higher your HDL is, the better. It's the 'good' one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rattybag View Post
    Also, I thought trigs were good things to have, such as MCT oil and coconut oil. Do I need to cut these out?
    Trigs are bad. But don't cut out fats. Cut out sugar.

    Work out your ratios (in the second post of griffs cholesterol primer).
    Last edited by magicmerl; 06-18-2012 at 02:32 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattybag View Post
    Im confused. (again!) I thought my HDL was really bad!
    Also, I thought trigs were good things to have, such as MCT oil and coconut oil. Do I need to cut these out?
    Are you EATING MCT oil and coconut oil? Are you taking a spoon to a jar? Are you putting butter in your coffee or other crazy things? Oil isn't food. It's a processed, extracted fat that's useful in the kitchen but shouldn't make up a large portion of your diet. If you're doing that, stop doing so. Coconut is healthy but it is known to elevate cholesterol, though HDL tends to go up in kind.
    Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
    Are you EATING MCT oil and coconut oil? Are you taking a spoon to a jar? Are you putting butter in your coffee or other crazy things? Oil isn't food. It's a processed, extracted fat that's useful in the kitchen but shouldn't make up a large portion of your diet. If you're doing that, stop doing so. Coconut is healthy but it is known to elevate cholesterol, though HDL tends to go up in kind.
    I would totally agree, but Rattybags did mention that she is on a ketogenic diet to control seizures. I think that would require some supplemental oil just to get enough calories while keeping protein and carbs low enough to remain in ketosis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yodiewan View Post
    I would totally agree, but Rattybags did mention that she is on a ketogenic diet to control seizures. I think that would require some supplemental oil just to get enough calories while keeping protein and carbs low enough to remain in ketosis.
    No, it wouldn't. Buy fattier meats. You don't need any oil supplementation on a ketogenic diet. Buy chicken thighs instead of chicken breast. Buy chuck roast instead of top round. Buy 85% ground beef instead of 95% ground beef. Eat whole eggs. There is more than enough fat in all of those things.
    Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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