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    Do You Take Matt Stone Seriously?

    I am brand new to the Paleo scene and am just learning about the science and players. Took a look at MS' blog today and saw where he claims to be able to cure Type 2 diabetes in less than one week. Pretty hard to take a claim that seriously. I watched his sugar challenge video and thought it was just a publicity stunt but now wonder if the guy isn't wrapped too tight. Unlike Kurt Harris, MS doesn't give you much info unless you buy his books. Not sure he has given me very much incentive to buy his books. Seems like he is saying you can eat all of the grains/refined carb and sugar you want as long as you do certain things but you don't know what the things are unless you buy his book. Am I missing something? Thanks.

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    I read a couple of his blog posts, and they seemed to be 'out there' just for attention. I ignore him completely.

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    he makes his living off of low-carb refugees. he gets you to eat carbs again. bravo.

    other than that, it's a lot of crap. like a horribly distilled ray peat. who makes limited sense, too.

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    "If Matt Stone were a weatherman, you would find that he had correctly predicted 12 of the last 3 big storms." Kurt Harris M.D.
    Primal/Paleo is not for everyone, it's for those who have committed to understand.
    READ THE BOOK! ...as Robb Wolf says: "Trying to convince people to save their own ass will burn you out."

    Vegetarians are the enemy of everything good and decent in the human spirit, and an affront to all I stand for -- the pure enjoyment of food. Anthony Bourdain

    and yes, calories DO count my little piggies

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    he's dead on about low carb eventually funkin' you up. been there. done that. he's all about eating a shit ton o sugar and grains though. can't really dig that. i have thanked him personally though. he got my ass out of the low carb daydream. using up all your biochemicals and not rebuilding isn't wise. low carb uses up A LOT! 2 yrs. of low carb/vlc and i unfortunately felt all the terrible symptoms he describes. he's still a douche
    Red meat is not bad for you. Now blue-green meat, that's bad for you! ~Tommy Smothers

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    Thanks for the replies. I feel a whole lot better since I got 100% off all cereal grains. I am worried about the PUFA's I have been eating in my almonds. I cut back from 2 oz to 1 oz per day which still gives me 3.4 grams of O6. I bought a whole load of almonds on sale and I hate to throw them out, but I think I will toss them just like I tossed my bulgar and flaxseed. Live and learn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shannon View Post
    he's dead on about low carb eventually funkin' you up. been there. done that. he's all about eating a shit ton o sugar and grains though. can't really dig that. i have thanked him personally though. he got my ass out of the low carb daydream. using up all your biochemicals and not rebuilding isn't wise. low carb uses up A LOT! 2 yrs. of low carb/vlc and i unfortunately felt all the terrible symptoms he describes. he's still a douche
    Can you spare a fellow grok some reading time and share what the 'symptoms' of low carb/vlc are according to MS? What symptoms did you actually experience?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoLogicCheck View Post
    Can you spare a fellow grok some reading time and share what the 'symptoms' of low carb/vlc are according to MS? What symptoms did you actually experience?
    I'd be interested to hear about your problems on VLC, I've just read 'The Art and Science of Low Carb living' and 'The Paleo Answer', both great books, and put a very good case acroos to VLC, especially the art and science book.
    A few problems they say people may encounter is eating too much protien, as this doesnt allow the fat burning to kick in, and maybe more importantly making sure to up the salt intake, as the body dumps sodium on LC.
    I've gone low carb(50g ish a day) since reading these books, and feel good so far. Just have to make sure you get lots of good fats!
    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyH View Post
    I'd be interested to hear about your problems on VLC, I've just read 'The Art and Science of Low Carb living' and 'The Paleo Answer', both great books, and put a very good case acroos to VLC, especially the art and science book.
    A few problems they say people may encounter is eating too much protien, as this doesnt allow the fat burning to kick in, and maybe more importantly making sure to up the salt intake, as the body dumps sodium on LC.
    I've gone low carb(50g ish a day) since reading these books, and feel good so far. Just have to make sure you get lots of good fats.
    Cheers
    dude, i was the queen of fat!! ate at least 10 TB of coconut oil a day on top of the fat from my pastured piggy lard, olive oil, chicken and beef trimmings. i recommended the same thing when i was starting out. eat more fat!! that's not always the issue.
    Red meat is not bad for you. Now blue-green meat, that's bad for you! ~Tommy Smothers

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoLogicCheck View Post
    Can you spare a fellow grok some reading time and share what the 'symptoms' of low carb/vlc are according to MS? What symptoms did you actually experience?
    well at first (under 100g/carb) i felt wonderful. almost high and euphoric. nothing could touch me! then about a few mos. later my energy started to drag. should i lower my carbs? i mean lowering my carbs worked to begin with. why not? lowered 'em to about 50g and of course felt that awesome low carb love once again. didn't last long. same thing happened except this time my libido and mood were effected. shoot! how could it be??? lowered 'em even more to about 20g, atkins style. dry eyes, dry cough, new symptoms of allergies (never had), skin losing it's glow, pms back, and the worst...stomach issues returning. ugh! how could my gut be feeling bad?! i haven't eaten grains/sugar/legumes in SO long! i was developing food sensitivities to onion/garlic, egg, and fruit. never in my life have i been sensitive to these foods! i was avoiding them because i was trying to lower my carbs. i figured that the more you avoid a food that you're NOT sensitive to the weirder your body reacts when you do eat it. i was snapping at everyone about everything! talk about caveman attitude. if i had a club...
    one last symptom i'd like to mention-cardiac issues. they may have been related to thyroid/adrenal fatigue. not sure. scared the shiz outta me though. woke up one night w my heart beating out of my chest (panic attack style but worse) and i HAD to vomit. puked but my heart kept racing and i was heavily sweating. sat down at the computer trying to figure out what was going on (i suggest someone to go to the e.r.). i looked at the clock and it was around 3:30am. classic cortisol time. anyways, i started craving oj and bananas. yuck! i hate sugar!! i was going flippin' crazy. thank god my hubby still ate these foods. went in the fridge and downed a jug of oj and stuffed in a few bananas. slowly but surely i was able to go to bed. i was killing myself. no doubt. i had a few more puking episodes w a racing heart. read matt stone and bam! i knew my metabolism was getting funked up. mark sisson says staying in keto for too long WILL mess w the metabolism. i didn't listen because it felt so good. damn ketones! added some sweet taterz and fruit and now i'm good to go. please be safe. i do believe that lack of carbs is VERY stressful to our bodies (even if we CAN do it), especially to someone w weak adrenals/thyroid. btw, all those symptoms above have been reversed w the addition of paleo/primal carbs
    one other symptom i forgot. gallbladder issues. it WASN'T the fat, i assure you!! apparently i was so very low on vit. c that i was starting to get scurvy symptoms. i'm not a pirate!! i was eating my bell peppers and veggies that had vit. c. eating fruit took away the spasms almost instantly. all i know is that i have been through the diet ringer and counting macronutrients does not work for this chick.
    Last edited by shannon; 06-22-2012 at 07:08 AM. Reason: forgot somethin'
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