Since I've started to eat easy to digest foods (carbs from fruit mostly) and included dairy (having taken it out for 4 years) I finally feel alive! People will argue that the 'lifestyle' choice isn't a cult, but the moment you mention something that isn't in the Paleo bible (diet of fucking bacon and broccoli), people are quick to bash you out of the group. There are very, very few exceptions from the paleo authors.
I think that it's mostly important to upgrade the quality of any food group in this 'lifestyle choice' rather than obsessing over whether or not it's good for you. One's body will inform the effects of food group 'X'.
Looking back, I cannot believe how much I spend on supplements and these supposedly "super foods" that aren't supplements, but are "food". I never felt or looked any different taking them, but I feel great not pouring what little income I have into a jar of powder and instead buy raw milk!
Thanks to those whom helped me realise that there is more to what we eat than meat and veg. Thanks for holding a mirror up to my reality of the past few years and helping me realise that it was not working. Just because someone wrote about it doesn't mean it works.
Last edited by Nstocks; 05-23-2013 at 08:51 AM.
Besides, "facts" are usually revealed to be anecdotal and based on confirmation bias. "Thousands of people I have had personal contact with" may turn out to be "three or four people who have had a problem their whole lives and written about it multiple times" or even "one guy who has since changed his mind".
I doubt you would put that as part of your signature, (the part that currently says "Let's talk about carbs...") although I wish more people, who really don't care on this site, WOULD put that in their signature so I would just know ahead of time.
That way I don't read through their posts, and read some of the people they recommend, ask them questions through PM, challenge them (as everyone should be challenged on their views), and find out that it was pointless lol.
Tell me why is should care what you or anyone else thinks? I still honestly dont understand your line of questioning.
I have helped at least 10 people directly through this site, get their health and quality of life in a better place. These people were willing to have an open mind an experiment. These are people who have directly contacted me and i have built at least a little of a relationship with. That is the only reason i am here. Debating health with randoms who already have their minds made up is absolutely not something im interested in.
The only reason i posted in this thread was to defend a friend who was gettig unfairly criticized from people who know very little to nothing about him or his work.
In the end, i have found what works, and thats all i care about. If others get helped along the way, thats just a bonus.
Lots of people here don't take any supplements, myself included and Mark even said in so many words at the last AHS that supps were not necessary for a healthy person eating optimally.
Yes, there are some hypochondriac headcases with serious ED problems around these boards, I suspect any health/fitness related site attracts its share of them, but that is not Primal. smh.
There are a lot of ways to be Primal. IDK where this "cult of Primal" myth sprung up. Maybe on Matt's site. The same place one learns to insert an f bomb in every sentence perhaps?
Last edited by Paleobird; 05-23-2013 at 01:07 PM.
I'm sure when I read TPB it didn't say you couldn't eat fruit and dairy.. Sure it suggests you avoid dairy if it causes you issues, but that's a no brainier, right?
Even beyond Primal, paleo "gurus" like Robb Wolf suggest you just cut out dairy for the first month, then reintroduce it to test if you do have any reaction. If you don't, fill your boots. Surely, just common sense?
If you're interested in my (very) occasional updates on how I'm working out and what I'm eating click here.
Again, it must just I that I happens to see every thread about eating bacon (or steak) for breakfast, lunch, dinner, snacks and desserts in some weird way. (Chocolate bacon brownies for instance). Again, it must be exclusive to my eyes only, but whenever I see the Paleo authors (mostly) talk about FAQ's or queries from newcomers, they state over and over again to newcomers that you don't have to eat chicken and broccoli at every meal. (We have to get our information from somewhere, hence the exaggeration of the authors) Again, it must just be I whom see's those comments and wonder why the newcomers come to the conclusion that Paleo is just about chicken and broccoli.
I've visited Matt's site once or twice. I've barley heard of the guy so no, he didn't brainwash me into this "non-cult". Are you really that ignorant to let the posts that Mark himself write about saying "this is not a bible" just wash over you? You put yourself in a box 'Paleobird'.
I know you must think that you are superior to most (I've seen a lot of your posts) but the occasional swear wear is allowed if one feels the need to express themselves. Don't worry, Robb Wolf does it too! I guess that because you are so regimented into the black and white, right or wrong on this forum, this kind of outburst is prohibited.
Last edited by Nstocks; 05-23-2013 at 02:56 PM.
This is not a paleo site. If you want to blame people here for what you've read on other sites, that's your issue.