06-18-2012, 05:03 AM
Originally Posted by spacey47
THe irony is, the person you are describing is likely starving due to lack of appropriate nutrition.
06-18-2012, 05:05 AM
Sad more than ironic
Originally Posted by Jiigigaw
Have a read of this
BBC News - Global weight gain more damaging than rising numbers
06-18-2012, 05:12 AM
You know, I was thinking about the "lazy" angle of this topic, and I think the largest issue is that people have different views of what is and is not lazy. Someone who has two jobs and is schooling will absolutely tell you they are not lazy. Now, if both those jobs are desk jobs, and they drive to school, then someone whom defines lazy as not being physical would declare that individual lazy.
Originally Posted by Jen AlcesAlces
They would be right if the assumption is that lazy is the same as low calorie burn. In such a situation, a lumberjack that puts in 30 hours a week would be less lazy than a programmer who works 60 hours. Until that is settled, the debate of lazy vs hard working will continue for a long time.
06-18-2012, 05:12 AM
Eh, there will always be haters. People who are happy and content don't waste time looking in other people's buggys at the grocery store and judging them.
It is also the prejudice model at work - if you think that fat people are lazy, overindulged, etc. then you notice things that support that belief. You notice the crisps and the soda, and not the overweight mom with four kids hanging of her cart picking up stuff for a stir fry.
I would ask the people who are so critical, what do your feelings really have to do about you, since the hate really isn't about people you don't even know. Other people are neutral - you don't know them, they are a canvas on which you are projecting. What it is about yourself you find so repugnant?
Last edited by icz; 06-18-2012 at 05:27 AM.
06-18-2012, 05:42 AM
No one said anyhting about hate did they?
there people go again making it ito a DRAMA!
its an observation and a reality in that obesity impacts on all of us financially ...well those who pay taxes anyhow, many of us
There is really no need for the level of obesity in the Western World
30 years ago the levels were no where near what they are now, are you saying that in one generation people have EVOLVED
to become obese? If so that makes primal look stupid if we still havent evolved to eat grains in 10-20 thousand years
These levels of Obesity have come about due to behavioural changes NOT genetic, hormonal or 'broken' metabolisms which seems to be the EXCUSE de jour on here
you can see the same things happening in the societies that have imported crappy western diets
Take most of the obese people in the West and ask them to live the lifestyle of people in countries where food is in short supply
where its normal to walk 10 miles just to get some water, where you have to do hard physical work to get some food and you see how quickly they drop that weight they have been carrying
06-18-2012, 07:59 PM
I don't feel at all dramatic about it. . there have been overweight people for eons - Look at King Henry the 8th. Who cares. Live your life.
It does, actually, appear that we have evolved to become obese. Martians didn't make McDonalds - we did. We have created our reality.
I don't care if my neighbor is fat, or the woman at WalMart. I think Plato said, "Be kind - everyone is fighting a hard battle." We all have our issues. Yes, we have abundance in many ways, and no, we haven't evolved enough to learn to deal with it.
But all the misdirected anger at overweight people? One what is largely a diet board? That is peculiar.
06-19-2012, 03:32 AM
Once again you mistake opinion for anger and overly dramatise everything as you are responding emotionally.
You ignore the facts and come up with all sorts of strange ideas as to how humans develop
I think the place you live is commonly known as cloud cuckoo land some of us live in reality and the reality is that the man made obesity epidemic
Is wrecking havoc on the planet : financially, socially, environmentally and emotionally and none of it is necessary
it its widely predicted that we may soon see children dying before their parents because of it.....not a jolly future is it?
06-19-2012, 05:58 AM
Umm ... the only one who is "responding emotionally" (and being very rude in the process) is you. Calm down -- it sounds like you're one very, very angry individual. And maybe find a grammar-check.
Originally Posted by spacey47
06-19-2012, 06:13 AM
Oh come now, some asshole has found a soapbox and clearly isn't going to give it up. Responding as if they are an actual human being is absurd.
Originally Posted by KimInGA
06-19-2012, 07:54 AM
Ha ha, you're right. But I can't shake the mental image of me taking my 65-lb lab/shepherd mix for a walk, and she's just calmly plodding along ... and then someone walks by with one of those little 7-lb yipping furballs. The little dog always goes nuts, lunging and choking itself on the leash while yipping nonstop at a pitch that makes me wish I’d brought earplugs. It’s always funny to watch the owner try to calm it down, because it never works and they just end up looking dumb in the process trying to talk to their dog while it's practically foaming at the mouth. And then we walk by, all super calm, and I remind myself that this is why I own a big ol' heinz-57 mutt. Stressing out that much over nothing ain't good for ya!
Originally Posted by DarthFriendly