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    I think that saturated human fat is probably a major ingredient in Soylent Green and ultimately that's why they want you to be fat.
    Sorry but the tin foil hat brigade parade just went right on by you and didn't even notice this very witty remark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleobird View Post
    Sorry but the tin foil hat brigade parade just went right on by you and didn't even notice this very witty remark.
    That's because we are too old and they have never heard of it. I wonder what's in Soylent Red?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbhikes View Post
    That's because we are too old and they have never heard of it. I wonder what's in Soylent Red?
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    I live in the South (Texas). Just go to any Wal-Mart. I'd say that figure is accurate, if not low.

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    Ok ok, I'm always anti-conspiracy, so my opinion's probably not popular.

    I get why this makes sense, and it's tempting to jump into and believe. But why does everything have to be a conspiracy?
    Obviously there are huge issues with conventional prevalent healthcare, but I don't think I'd go as far as saying they actually want us to be fat and unhealthy. Keep in mind a lot of people who work for these companies/organisations being accused are probably overweight or obese.

    Think of your family doctor. If you have a good relationship with him/her. They don't want you to be fat! My doctor at least, genuinely cares about me. He doesn't make more money when I'm fat, I rarely visit the doctor. He isn't giving me CW advice because he wants me to be fat, he's doing it because he think it's right. And for a long time studies seemed to point in that direction. I don't believe they INTEND to mislead us. My roommates are med students, I pay a lot of attention to what they're taught in nutrition. It is scientifically backed, unfortunately it's just not in depth enough or exploratory enough, and they don't consider alternatives, it's all "tried and true". It was cool to see they did a whole thing on celiacs and gluten intolerance though.

    I mean, you could be right, it could be a huge conspiracy, but I think there are too many players for them all to be willingly doing this. If it's really happening, I think it's a governmental thing, more so than a medical/pharmaceutical professional thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbhikes View Post
    I think that saturated human fat is probably a major ingredient in Soylent Green and ultimately that's why they want you to be fat.
    I wouldn't touch soylent green, which is obviously made from soy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nixxy View Post
    Ok ok, I'm always anti-conspiracy, so my opinion's probably not popular.

    I get why this makes sense, and it's tempting to jump into and believe. But why does everything have to be a conspiracy?
    Obviously there are huge issues with conventional prevalent healthcare, but I don't think I'd go as far as saying they actually want us to be fat and unhealthy. Keep in mind a lot of people who work for these companies/organisations being accused are probably overweight or obese.

    Think of your family doctor. If you have a good relationship with him/her. They don't want you to be fat! My doctor at least, genuinely cares about me. He doesn't make more money when I'm fat, I rarely visit the doctor. He isn't giving me CW advice because he wants me to be fat, he's doing it because he think it's right. And for a long time studies seemed to point in that direction. I don't believe they INTEND to mislead us. My roommates are med students, I pay a lot of attention to what they're taught in nutrition. It is scientifically backed, unfortunately it's just not in depth enough or exploratory enough, and they don't consider alternatives, it's all "tried and true". It was cool to see they did a whole thing on celiacs and gluten intolerance though.

    I mean, you could be right, it could be a huge conspiracy, but I think there are too many players for them all to be willingly doing this. If it's really happening, I think it's a governmental thing, more so than a medical/pharmaceutical professional thing.
    Yes.

    Though it IS mostly about the money the further away you get from the actual patient/consumer, I honestly believe most doctors really do want their patients to be healthy. They just haven't been taught the way to do that, and it goes back generations.

    On the food and pharmaceuticals end of it, I don't think it's a mass conspiracy, it's just choosing to not care about the consequences of what they're selling because it would be choosing to give up a crap ton of cash, and someone else would do it anyway. It's not a conspiracy to make us sick, it's people thinking money is more important than pretty much anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texas.grok View Post
    Think of it a different way. Planned obsolescence is a term that means that you have a product that becomes obsolete or breaks within a certain time frame so you can sell a newer version of the same product. As an example, my mother has an Oster blender when I was growing up, a long time ago, and still has it. It must be over 40 years old and still works. Corporations figured out that if you made a product that durable, you only sold one per family every few decades. But if you built them cheaper and with less robust parts, they would break down in a few years and you could sell them another one. Planned obsolescence is what has driven our hyper-consumerism society. The product sold may not break down but it becomes out of fashion or a newer technology takes it place.

    The same thing applies to us humans and how we are viewed by the medical-pharmaceutical industry. If they cure us, make us healthy, practice preventative medicine rather than allopathic medicine, they lose their customer base. Healthy 60 year olds donít buy BP medicine, statin drugs or Viagra. Sick, out of shape, fat people do. And as we die off, more come into the cue for the allopathic medical industry.

    Donít cure anything, treat signs and symptoms with drugs that create side effects that are treated with more drugs. That is what the medical-pharmaceutical industry has become all about.
    Exactly dude. I make this argument all the time and people just don't seem to want to believe it.
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    I think it's important to keep yourself safe. But it's hard because Americans don't know who or what to believe about health anymore.

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