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    Quote Originally Posted by paleo-bunny View Post
    The Paleo for Women site looks a great resource.
    Just exploring it but it does look interesting. I just started reading her bit on women & IF.

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    Just chiming in to say the low-carb breakfast/high-carb dinner approach works really well for me too. I have energy all day and sleep more deeply than I have in years.

    I also discovered quite by accident that too much carb in my lunch (a small serving of white rice, for example) makes me dangerously sleepy on my commute home from work. So my lunches are low-carb too. I save most or all of my carbs for dinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakey View Post
    spot on, as usual. i think people on paleo message forums round the net seem to use this 'wrecked metabolism'/'metabolically deranged' concept way, way too much, until it becomes a crutch to support whatever bizarre theory makes them think calories don't matter. if you're alive, and you're not pathologically ill with major endocrine dysfunction, your metabolism works just fine.
    People develop orthorexia eating this way. They get so food obsessed that they become terrified and anxious over certain foods. "Wrecked metabolism" is just a defense mechanism to justify their eating disorder in their heads. Very few people have a wrecked metabolism - my personal favorite are the people that claim to have gotten fat eating 1,200 calories on a SAD diet but lost weight eating 5,000 calories on the PB. It makes my head hurt. There are crazy people in every group, and the Church of Paleo has some of the whackiest members.

    I just saw a woman on Facebook talking about how she only eats meat and eggs because eating green vegetables shoots her blood sugar through the roof and makes her binge on carbs, and her "wrecked metabolism" can't handle vegetables. I almost threw up in my mouth. Now we're demonizing lettuce because it has too many carbs.
    Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
    People develop orthorexia eating this way. There are crazy people in every group, and the Church of Paleo has some of the whackiest members.
    Quoting for truth.

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    It's easy to wreck your metabolism, especially as a woman. Women are taught very young how to do it and they excel at it in ways that men simply will never understand.
    Female, 5'3", 49, Starting weight: 163lbs. Current weight: 135 (more or less).
    I can squat 180lbs, press 72.5lbs and deadlift 185lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbhikes View Post
    It's easy to wreck your metabolism, especially as a woman. Women are taught very young how to do it and they excel at it in ways that men simply will never understand.
    It's "easy" to wreck your metabolism in the sense that the SAD is the specific diet that wrecks your metabolism. Take into consideration that it takes decades eating the absolute foods possible to wreck your metabolism. Taking that perspective, it's incredibly difficult. The human body is very resilient, and this is evident that decades of horrible food choices can be reversed in a couple months - just look at the success stories on this site. In fact, I'd go as far to say that it's nearly impossible to "wreck your metabolism" eating primally.
    Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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    I use intermittent fasting as my main fat-zapping trick. I mostly stick to 2 meals per day, lunch late afternoon and dinner early evening. I occasionally have a light breakfast when I feel I need it, and occasionally have only dinner if I am too busy for lunch. So my daily fast varies between 12-24 hours.

    I've heard that eating something low carb can be almost as good as fasting but a bit easier to do, but I personally find it easier to skip a meal rather than have an unsatisfying snack. Some who do intense weightlifting sessions swear by a proteiny/fatty snack after their workout to avoid an insulin spike and keep the growth hormone pumping instead. I think this is a good idea and would eat eggs as a post-run snack, but I kind of phased out snacking so now I just have a meal within a couple hours of finishing a run.

    I don't really worry about macronutrient ratios much. My carbs come mainly from veggies (which are ridiculously hard to overeat!) and a limited amount of fruit and yoghurt. So my diet is inherently low on carbs anyway.
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    Chaco, you do not understand women. We learn very early how to do disordered eating. The disordered eating wrecks our metabolism. It also wrecks our relationship to food, any food, and to our bodies. It wrecks our neurotransmitters. It wrecks our sex hormones.

    I have read your recent post. I think you are well on your way to wrecking your own metabolism, or at least wrecking your relationship to food and your body. At least you got the title of that post right.
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    I can squat 180lbs, press 72.5lbs and deadlift 185lbs

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    Lately, I've been eating my first meal in the afternoon, usually low carb, and then have something higher in carbs for my second meal at dinner. Sometimes I do the opposite. Sometimes I don't eat any carbs one day, and the next day I eat yams, rice, fruit, potatoes, some protein in there somewhere. I never notice that my sleep is different depending on when I eat my carbs, but i generally prefer to save them for the later part of the day. However, I like to mix things up because I personally don't think humans are meant to do anything too regimented/routine, and i do better with a little variation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
    my personal favorite are the people that claim to have gotten fat eating 1,200 calories on a SAD diet but lost weight eating 5,000 calories on the PB. It makes my head hurt. There are crazy people in every group, and the Church of Paleo has some of the whackiest members.
    The thing is - this actually happened to me? As soon as I cut refined crabs and most fruit out of my diet my composition started to change. I started dropping fat. And I havent eaten so much fat (or calories) in years - I constantly pig out on nuts and full fat Greek Yogurt, but if I eat bread and / or rice once a day for a week I put on weight. (I haven't touched pasta in years for that precise reason.)

    I actually read a study recently where two groups of overweight women were fed identical food, with one difference - except one group were given a daily portion of macadamias. After a number of weeks, the macademia women had lost more weight. Go figure.

    Now, back to crazy camp for me

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