NY tries to ban large soda sales- gotta hear from my fellow Grokkers! page 5

[Legbiter]

They're not even banning the soda. They're banning the cup!

[canio6]

Sin taxes are unAmerican? Since when? Lots of states and cities have them.

Lots of cities have crime, pollution, corruption, and other such undesirables. Just because something exists does not make it desirable. As for since when, I would say since day one. Just because something continues to happen does not make it right.

[Legbiter]

Dug around a little and Bloomberg tried to put a tax on the soda first but the state legislature nixed it.

[tfarny]

how did no one attack this weirdo...?



why are there people who still pick a side of that stupid coin in the 21st century? Your life must be sad.



I don't think that any libertarians are complaining that the ban is not total and effective enough...where they are pointing that out, it is to illustrate the absurd and childish mindset of the cognitively challenged minds that make up the Statist camp.



you should change the word Education there to Coercion. Education means that you make new information available to an individual, who then mixes this knowledge with his own in order to make better choices. What you are talking about is not Education.



woulda been way better coming out of elitist professors' heads



let's say that you were them. what incentive do you have to make the people of the projects healthy?



why should there be laws that treat me like a child even after I have grown up?

It makes sense for you to believe that above statement, because you said yourself, "I am a Liberal," which one could easily hear as, "I am most comfortable in this herd. Al Gore is my sheperd and I sleep more soundly knowing that my smart daddy fantasy ego projection is vigilant and loves me!

ah-ha



now you are equating telling people that something is unhealthy with pointing a gun at them and telling them that they are not authorised to consume it.

Your idea of acceptable levels of violence is inappropriately out of touch with reality

Wow, that's a pretty bizarre one. Not sure where I advocated violence, or approved of the soda size ban at all. But it's obvious you want to react angrily at someone, so, glad I could helpful. BTW the whole "gun to the head" metaphor is really, really, stretched pretty far here isn't it?

[OutdoorAmy]

Lots of cities have crime, pollution, corruption, and other such undesirables. Just because something exists does not make it desirable. As for since when, I would say since day one. Just because something continues to happen does not make it right.

Ding ding ding!

Slavery used to be common to, so does that make it okay?

Didn't think so.

This law is so stupid and un-democratic it literally boggles the mind. And just put NYC up there with NC in places I would never live. I don't tolerate socialism and limits to my freedom very well. At. All.

[fiercehunter]

I will jump for joy if they take the drinks away, fills me with utter glee.

[Uncephalized]

Wow, that's a pretty bizarre one. Not sure where I advocated violence, or approved of the soda size ban at all. But it's obvious you want to react angrily at someone, so, glad I could helpful. BTW the whole "gun to the head" metaphor is really, really, stretched pretty far here isn't it?

It's not really a metaphor. Try not paying your taxes and then barricade yourself in your house for a while and refuse to move. All completely non-aggressive [lack of] actions. I would be surprised if at some point a gun was not pointed at your head, in the totally literal sense.

In the same way, if this law is passed, and someone continues to serve the banned drink size, and continues to do so while ignoring fines or other penal measures (all non-aggressive actions that deny no one any agency nor cause them involuntary harm), at some point someone will come into his restaurant and point a gun at him to force him to comply. This is not metaphorical, it would be a real live gun that could really blow off his real head.

[Uncephalized]

I will jump for joy if they take the drinks away, fills me with utter glee.

Then your claim to libertarianism rings rather hollow, doesn't it?

[PoppaCap]

Donuts and diet coke are okay?

[Primal Bill]

Liberals are the dumbest people on the planet. And this is just another example why.