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    There are no circumstances where it is advantageous to take statins.

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    I'm not so sure about that yet. I just read a study (still trying to re-find the link) that says LDL-C is a good predictor of CVD when it is elevated but not so good when it is in the CW target range. When LDL-C is in the target range, LDL-P is a better predictor. This may explain why 50% of people with CVD events have good LDL-C levels. Statins may be good to lower LDL-C to the target range but probably not so good to keep taking them to drive LDL-C even lower thinking that will further reduce risk of CVD.

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    I think haemoglobin a1c tests and LDL particle size tests are better predictors

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    Looks perfect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artbuc View Post
    I'm not so sure about that yet. I just read a study (still trying to re-find the link) that says LDL-C is a good predictor of CVD when it is elevated but not so good when it is in the CW target range. When LDL-C is in the target range, LDL-P is a better predictor. This may explain why 50% of people with CVD events have good LDL-C levels. Statins may be good to lower LDL-C to the target range but probably not so good to keep taking them to drive LDL-C even lower thinking that will further reduce risk of CVD.
    Actually, LDL-P is the predictor, and LDL-C is only a good predictor of CVD when it's correlated with LDL-P.
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    I will have to take statins no matter what, total cholesterol is almost 500.
    Damn familial hypercholesterolemia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luce View Post
    I will have to take statins no matter what, total cholesterol is almost 500.
    Damn familial hypercholesterolemia.
    What are your circumstances - gender, age, health?

    What are your subfractions - ldl, hdl, trigs?

    Statins have only ever been shown to benefit middle-aged men who've had a vascular event (heart attack, stroke etc). Are you one of these?

    The other thing that seems never to be written about statins is the low compliance in taking them. They can be debilitating. I know because I fit the profile for taking them and did for a few weeks before I decided I could never be healthy and take them because of the muscle and joint pain
    Why I don't worry about cholesterol:
    Lyon Diet Heart Trial
    Get With The Guidelines admission data
    Sydney Diet Heart Study revisited
    INTERHEART Study
    Primary Prevention of Cardiovascular Disease with a Mediterranean Diet

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