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    This conversation is seriously whack.

    the question is how does prenatal and natal nutrition factor into the development of the embryo infant and toddler.

    you either beleive that what you eat matters or you dont.

    any other answer is static

    those who say no it doesnt matter, you probably need to be eating fruit loops and drinking mountain dew.

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    (i guess they weren't breastfed)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimhensen View Post
    lol, of course he does. I doubt that breast feeding as an infant makes any noticeable difference as an adult.
    The people I have met in my life use this as an excuse to not breastfeed because they don't want to. And they think this justifies it.
    I am sick of hearing it, if you don't want to breastfeed then say it, own up to it. Its your choice, but don't cover it up and say you couldn't.
    Its very very rare to not be able to physically breastfeed. Almost any woman can with the right support and guidance. If you really want to, it often just takes some work and commitment.
    Sadly there appears to be a lack of support and education around breastfeeding in every country.

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    oh dear, i don't mean to sound moderator-ish, but let's not go down that road.

    for the naysayers, if you really think that breastfeeding has no long-term impact on a person, read a little scientific literature and remember that no company benefits financially from people choosing to breastfeed. there's really no reason that the medical community would be bribed to slant studies in favor of breast feeding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayla2010 View Post
    The people I have met in my life use this as an excuse to not breastfeed because they don't want to. And they think this justifies it.
    I am sick of hearing it, if you don't want to breastfeed then say it, own up to it. Its your choice, but don't cover it up and say you couldn't.
    Its very very rare to not be able to physically breastfeed. Almost any woman can with the right support and guidance. If you really want to, it often just takes some work and commitment.
    Sadly there appears to be a lack of support and education around breastfeeding in every country.
    Yes an excuse, or they "believe" it because it's easier that way to deal with the fact they weren't breastfed, or that their children weren't breastfed because the mother was either not supported well enough, or educated well enough.

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    I was breastfed and have suffered all my life with illness, allergies, dark circles under my eyes etc. It wasn't until I went primal that these things improved.

    Similarly my children were breastfed but were quite sickly until they changed their diets.

    Whilst I absolutely believe in the benefits of breastfeeding I do not think you are doomed a life of immune deficiencies if you weren't. Changing your own diet now can do wonders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayla2010 View Post
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    Its very very rare to not be able to physically breastfeed. Almost any woman can with the right support and guidance. If you really want to, it often just takes some work and commitment.
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    I'm sorry, but this is not necessarily true. Of my three boys, my second was born 10 weeks early, spent 6 weeks in the NICU, and was never able to learn how to latch. I spent months in tears trying to get him to nurse while then still having to give him a bottle so that he could eat, and an entire year pumping so he was able to have breast milk, but had to supplement him after a certain amount of time because I was unable to keep up with the amount he eventually was able to consume.

    So please don't make assumptions that mothers are always "choosing" not to breastfeed their children.
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    I said rare not to be able to breastfed, which is true. And I said people I know saying they couldn't for various reasons which I know to be not true for not being able to breastfeed. One real reason is insufficient milk ducts, hyper(hypo) plastic breasts, I can't remember that exact term, but again its very rare, I donated milk to a mother for a while who has this, she breastfed with a supplemental nursing system (a bag around her neck with a tiny tube leading to the babies mouth). She is still doing this and her baby is well over one so see not impossible, but other people would have gone, oh no I don't have enough milk I can't do it. Yes I am aware that not everyone has access to donated milk, but its becoming more available, you just have to be willing to work for it.

    Your case is different, but still not impossible.
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    Breastfeeding is just one component of a healthy childhood. Post-breastfeeding nutrition, activity, exposure to sunlight, appropriate exposure to pathogens & beneficial bacteria, appropriate emotional & social interactions, stress levels, bonding & attachment - it's all important. And, realistically, not much of that will help if you grow up on top of a radioactive garbage heap. Genetics are also important - what one kid can emerge unscathed from will cause lifelong allergies in another, and stunt a third's intellectual development.

    And let's not forget that anecdotal "I did/didn't do X and I'm fine" information simply isn't as valuable as evidence from experimental or epidemiological data, however flawed that data is, it's better than a second-hand single variable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmeraldRose View Post
    I'm sorry, but this is not necessarily true. Of my three boys, my second was born 10 weeks early, spent 6 weeks in the NICU, and was never able to learn how to latch. I spent months in tears trying to get him to nurse while then still having to give him a bottle so that he could eat, and an entire year pumping so he was able to have breast milk, but had to supplement him after a certain amount of time because I was unable to keep up with the amount he eventually was able to consume.

    So please don't make assumptions that mothers are always "choosing" not to breastfeed their children.
    The reason you were unable to keep up with his demand, is because pumping is nowhere as efficient as actual breastfeeding. Babies are much better at getting the milk out than any pump. No pump can replicate their latch exactly.

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