Avoid diet coke, I believe it knocked me out of ketosis ! page 2

[MarissaLinnea]

I thought that sometimes ketones will be at zero after a workout because they are currently being used by the muscles and are not free floating through our system. That's something I remember hearing....

[statikcat]

Diet Sweeteners Can Make You Sick and Fat

[jimhensen]

Diet Sweeteners Can Make You Sick and Fat

Natural news is propaganda garbage. This article is a study done on rats that says rat fed artificial sweeteners caused rats to overeat and gain more weight than rats given sugary foods. If you are a rat, it might be best to stay away from artificial sweeteners.

These studies are stupid. Studies have shown that people that drink diet soda tend to gain more weight, but correlation doesn't equal causation. I have never had a diet soda and later became hungrier because of it. It might be different for some people, but I have never had that happen. And really it is no surprise that people that drink diet soda gain more weight...people with healthy lifestyles probably drink water. Its not that drinking diet soda makes you fat, it is that people that are fat drink diet soda to be "healthier."

[statikcat]

Natural news is propaganda garbage. This article is a study done on rats that says rat fed artificial sweeteners caused rats to overeat and gain more weight than rats given sugary foods. If you are a rat, it might be best to stay away from artificial sweeteners.

These studies are stupid. Studies have shown that people that drink diet soda tend to gain more weight, but correlation doesn't equal causation. I have never had a diet soda and later became hungrier because of it. It might be different for some people, but I have never had that happen. And really it is no surprise that people that drink diet soda gain more weight...people with healthy lifestyles probably drink water. Its not that drinking diet soda makes you fat, it is that people that are fat drink diet soda to be "healthier."

It is just one of many outlets for information. I don't visit frequently actually. It is a good read but not definitive. I wouldn't call them a propaganda site although they are big on anti-fed (if that is what you mean?). They do a lot of work against GMO, etc but providing a link does not mean I am endorsing the site as the end-all be-all.

I do think sweeteners can cause people to gain weight but maybe more from a psychological perspective than a biological one. The rat test is just that - a rat test. Anyone with half a brain reading a rat test should know it is not definitive of what happens on humans but it is interesting, to me at least, nonetheless. I always found the rat study interesting that it seems in rats when they taste something sweet, even if lacking calories or sugar, triggers a response for the body to go into storage mode.

[Tinker]

Natural news is propaganda garbage. This article is a study done on rats that says rat fed artificial sweeteners caused rats to overeat and gain more weight than rats given sugary foods. If you are a rat, it might be best to stay away from artificial sweeteners.

These studies are stupid. Studies have shown that people that drink diet soda tend to gain more weight, but correlation doesn't equal causation. I have never had a diet soda and later became hungrier because of it. It might be different for some people, but I have never had that happen. And really it is no surprise that people that drink diet soda gain more weight...people with healthy lifestyles probably drink water. Its not that drinking diet soda makes you fat, it is that people that are fat drink diet soda to be "healthier."

Well, these studies are certainly useful for determining whether you should have more studies but agreed that they mean nothing in themselves.

All I know is that my weight is fine and have used plenty of artificial sweeteners over the last 20 years. I also have great blood-work and good fitness. I'm personally more concerned that they have other, long-term health problems. However, I haven't seen any clinic studies yet suggesting that (always happy to read some, though!).

Again, I understand that these sweeteners offer no health benefits and I respect the decision not to use them, either out of caution or just good taste, but I do think they are made a bit of a boogie man.

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[deepglades]

poison messed up your diet? shocking.

[fiercehunter]

Yeah diet coke contains excitotoxins that mess up the brain.

[jimhensen]

Yeah diet coke contains excitotoxins that mess up the brain.

LOL...please show me the evidence of this. I heard that one of the side effects of broccoli is a broken leg.

[ChocoTaco369]

I know its not Primal but im doing a 48 hr fast, ive been in Ketosis for 3 days now and 36 hrs into the fast - this morning before hitting the gym the Ketostik showed 40% after a 40 minute run and a swim I drank 2 diet Pepsi - 3 hrs later the Ketosis is zero !

I doubt it's the Diet Coke. Here's why:

I hate ketosis. It's incredibly muscle-wasting. What more than likely happened is since you went to the gym while on ketosis, you spiked your blood sugar. How? Because YOU WENT TO THE GYM, which is glucose-demanding. Fat is very poorly converted into glucose. Muscle isn't. You probably consumed a substantial amount of muscle tissue during your exercise, causing a large glucose dump in your blood stream to fuel your workout. Working out on a ketogenic diet is a fantastic way to burn through muscle tissue and spare fat.

It probably continued to read zero for awhile because your body continued to break down muscle into glucose to try and recover some glycogen and break out of the carb-free Hell you're putting your ailing body through for no good reason.

I don't understand why people do ketogenic diets. It destroys muscle tissue and is an emergency metabolism that your body does not want to be in. Yes, you can function on it, but it's like running on back-up power. Weight loss comes down to an energy deficit, and an energy deficit on a ketogenic diet is a fantastic way to make sure as much of the weight lost comes from muscle as possible.

That being said, I'd probably rather drink regular Coke than Diet Coke. It's very toxic.