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    Joints hurt!

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    My joints are killing me! In particular my knees and hips. I am still taking glucosamine/chondroitin, and I'm 5 weeks out from a car accident that left me with a nasty sprained knee, but tonight I am aching terribly! I would really like to avoid adding another handful of meds to take, since I'm trying to get rid of most of them. Shortly I will slather my knees with Icy Hot before bed, but does anyone have any suggestions?

    Is this a side effect of my diet change? Something that others have experienced? Will it go away soon?

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    try eliminating night shades from your diet (tomatoes, bell pepper, egg plant, potatoes, cucumbers). It's really helped my joint health
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    i second the good dr., and would also urge you to remove as much omega6 fat from your diet as possible. be a nazi on that one...

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    I always hear about the nightshades, does that include jalapenos? Never heard about omega6 and arthritis--details, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by windypasswheeler View Post
    Never heard about omega6 and arthritis--details, please.
    inflammation is all about controlling your balance of eiconsanoids, which are signaling hormones created from the essential fatty acids - omega3 and omega6. you've heard about the omega3:6 ratio right? mark's written about it somewhere, i'm sure, do a search on the main blog.

    basically, limit your overall exposure to omega6 fat. eating primally takes care of a lot of this by eliminating see oils, but people fuck it up with the nuts and the almond flour monstrosities.

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    Increase your omega 3s for sure and cut out any processed foods. Even paleo friendly. The process of "processing" changes the speed at which your body changes foods into sugars. The faster your body can change food to sugars the higher the insulin response, which also inceases your inflamation. The lower your inflamation, the lower your pain. And supplement with omega 3s, oh and one more thing, take more omega 3s. Did I mention the benefits of Omega 3s?

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    Do you drink wine? About 10 years ago, I came down with terrible pain in certain joints...knees and fingers. It was excruciating pain. I felt like I had shards of glass in them. It happened twice and each time, I had ONE single glass of wine the night before. I haven't had a drop since then and have not experienced the pain again. I just remembered. I did have it one other time in some finger joints. I didn't drink any wine BUT I did eat a very small package of chocolate covered raisins. Now I avoid grapes at all costs!!! Strange but true! Of course since going primal, I don't eat "packaged" stuff anymore!!!

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    I have found that taking fat supplements helps. In (personal experience) the order of increasing helpfulness is

    Regular fish oils < Cod Liver Oils < Salmon Oils < Grass-fed butter (good source of CLA).

    That's me though. Your body could react totally differently.
    Drinking lots of water seems to be pretty helpful, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Bork Bork View Post
    try eliminating night shades from your diet (tomatoes, bell pepper, egg plant, potatoes, cucumbers). It's really helped my joint health
    I don't eat a lot of tomatoes, I've never been a big fan. But I have started eating them a little more since starting this. Haven't had any of the others, I thought potatoes weren't allowed? Does this apply also to sweet potatoes? Just tried some last night, I've generally hated them, but I'm trying to branch out my diet. I will search for other things that are night shades. Thank you!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cricket View Post
    Do you drink wine? About 10 years ago, I came down with terrible pain in certain joints...knees and fingers. It was excruciating pain. I felt like I had shards of glass in them. It happened twice and each time, I had ONE single glass of wine the night before. I haven't had a drop since then and have not experienced the pain again. I just remembered. I did have it one other time in some finger joints. I didn't drink any wine BUT I did eat a very small package of chocolate covered raisins. Now I avoid grapes at all costs!!! Strange but true! Of course since going primal, I don't eat "packaged" stuff anymore!!!
    I do drink red wine very very occasionally. I had some last night in fact, when I was hurting pretty terribly. It, along with the absolute darkest chocolate I can find are the only treats I'm having. If that is something I will have to give up too, so be it (can't really afford it anyway, hence the only very occasionally) but it will make me sad. Still, I'd rather not hurt!

    I've had zero packaged anything since starting this, so I know it isn't that! I'm being very careful with what we're getting at the grocery store and we're only buying fresh items, no pre-packaged stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by jakey View Post
    inflammation is all about controlling your balance of eiconsanoids, which are signaling hormones created from the essential fatty acids - omega3 and omega6. you've heard about the omega3:6 ratio right? mark's written about it somewhere, i'm sure, do a search on the main blog.

    basically, limit your overall exposure to omega6 fat. eating primally takes care of a lot of this by eliminating see oils, but people fuck it up with the nuts and the almond flour monstrosities.
    I have very much increased the amount of nuts I'm having. I used to not eat really any, now I'm having some almost every day, using them to add crunch to salads and such. We started with just almonds, but I picked up some pecans last weekend. Does this apply to the nut flours only, or to the nuts themselves? I am not using any flours.

    I did previously take an Omega-3 supplement, but I've been out for quite some time. I need to get some more. My water intake is generally quite high, as I really only drink coffee in the mornings, and then water the rest of the day.

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    cut those nuts and see if it doesn't help! also, omega3 supplements are not nearly as good as actual oily fish.

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