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    Hope you're feeling better soon, Judg. I will give you a break while you're sick, but be aware, I have eggs at the ready!

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    I think it is really important to listen to your body (wish I did it more!) when not feeling good. If hungry eat, if not don't. Drink lots and rest LOTS. Generally "starve a cold and feed a fever" is a good thing to go by - but always listening to your body. And the garlic works best when taken at the first sign of sickness I admit. I hope you feel better soon! A drink that is good for a sore throat (but high on carbs!) is 1 tablespoon lemon juice, 1 tablespoon ACV, and honey to taste and then add hot water. Sip and feel it soothe. Each of those ingredients is better if not boiled, or too hot, but sufficiently warm to be soothing too.
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    In my 52 years I've never been able to figure out what "starve a cold feed a fever" means. I scratch my head every time I hear it! What am I supposed to NOT do/eat/drink to STARVE the cold ............. and the opposite question holds for FEEDING a fever? Any help?

    Being sick seems to bring everything to a crawl! I hope you're feeling better this chilly Monday morning. I seem to ALWAYS gain weight when I'm sick - even when I don't a crumb all day! Must be from inflamation or something. Glad to hear you're weight loss is progressing even with the yuckies gripping your body.
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    Thank you for the good wishes, everyone. Yesterday's rest (and yes, I fasted all day) did feel good, although I'm not fully recovered. Had to spend the entire day at my elderly in-laws' place to help them get ready for a medical procedure. I did eat today, good stuff. Scrambled eggs and veggies in the morning, leftover ground beef sauce over spaghetti squash for the other two meals. And a little Italian salami and an apple.

    But I was in shock almost all day from today's scale reading: 140.2. I actually hit my most optimistic goal for my 7-day intensive push. The goal now for the next week is to wrestle the inevitable jump upwards back down below 141 and keep it there. Till New Year's.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedidoc View Post
    I usually advise going with what feels best. If hungry eat, if not push fluids. In all matters rest! Hope you feel better soon.
    Sage advice. My tummy was feeling a bit inflamed (it hurt a bit when I pressed on it) so I thought giving it a rest was a wise idea. It was better today. Good thing, because I really needed to eat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabine View Post
    Hope you're feeling better soon, Judg. I will give you a break while you're sick, but be aware, I have eggs at the ready!
    Too late. My intensive 7 finished today at noon. So I did have a square of chocolate with my decaf cappuccino when I got home. 85%, mind you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coll View Post
    I think it is really important to listen to your body (wish I did it more!) when not feeling good. If hungry eat, if not don't. Drink lots and rest LOTS. Generally "starve a cold and feed a fever" is a good thing to go by - but always listening to your body. And the garlic works best when taken at the first sign of sickness I admit. I hope you feel better soon! A drink that is good for a sore throat (but high on carbs!) is 1 tablespoon lemon juice, 1 tablespoon ACV, and honey to taste and then add hot water. Sip and feel it soothe. Each of those ingredients is better if not boiled, or too hot, but sufficiently warm to be soothing too.
    I thought of that, but I'm allergic to citrus, except in small quantities and buffered by food, so I gave up the idea pretty quickly. Apple cider vinegar, eh? Hadn't heard of that twist.

    Quote Originally Posted by tomi View Post
    In my 52 years I've never been able to figure out what "starve a cold feed a fever" means. I scratch my head every time I hear it! What am I supposed to NOT do/eat/drink to STARVE the cold ............. and the opposite question holds for FEEDING a fever? Any help?

    Being sick seems to bring everything to a crawl! I hope you're feeling better this chilly Monday morning. I seem to ALWAYS gain weight when I'm sick - even when I don't a crumb all day! Must be from inflamation or something. Glad to hear you're weight loss is progressing even with the yuckies gripping your body.
    I always figured that you should eat lightly or not at all with the cold, and maintain eating for the fever. Except I can never remember which one is which.

    The weight loss took most of the week to materialize and then it fell off all of a sudden. Very strange.

    I will check everybody's journals tomorrow. I'm pretty wiped, and running late. I was so tired I fell asleep on my in-laws' couch with the TV on, which only happens when I am really zonked.

    Delivery of three new sweaters (half price, free shipping, woot!) waiting for me when I got home. All size small. They all fit. I feel like I'm walking around in somebody else's body and am a little weirded out by it.
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    Judg -- I am so excited for you!!!! SMALL sizes is the best reward for all the long suffering and sacrifice! and yes, it certainly is both of those things at times when the resolve is running low - and the cravings are running high. I'm so very proud of you!

    I want you to know that thinking about the progress you've made is what often keeps me on track and focused. It might sound "internet stalker creepy" but sometimes when I'm really tempted to have something off track I hear in my little pee brain, "Judg would say to save it for a special planned treat" - and often thats enough to make me leave it alone

    So - thank you for the example you are - and for the words of wisdom you share!

    Now --- go put on those sweaters and take some pictures! I want to see!
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    Those eggs, longing for flight? DENIED!

    Good job, Judg.

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    Good to see you're feeling better and yay for the new low! I hope you don't bounce back up .
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomi View Post
    Judg -- I am so excited for you!!!! SMALL sizes is the best reward for all the long suffering and sacrifice! and yes, it certainly is both of those things at times when the resolve is running low - and the cravings are running high. I'm so very proud of you!

    I want you to know that thinking about the progress you've made is what often keeps me on track and focused. It might sound "internet stalker creepy" but sometimes when I'm really tempted to have something off track I hear in my little pee brain, "Judg would say to save it for a special planned treat" - and often thats enough to make me leave it alone

    So - thank you for the example you are - and for the words of wisdom you share!

    Now --- go put on those sweaters and take some pictures! I want to see!
    That is really quite cool. Nice to know that I can do something that will benefit others.

    Today I am wearing my grubs (Saskatchewanese for grubbies), so I don't plan on taking a picture... I'll see what I can do when I actually wear the sweaters, but they will probably be those horrible mirror pictures.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabine View Post
    Those eggs, longing for flight? DENIED!

    Good job, Judg.
    Eat the eggs, Sabine. LOL! And thanks.

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    Good to see you're feeling better and yay for the new low! I hope you don't bounce back up .
    Only went up a pound this morning, which kind of surprised me. I was figuring a couple anyway. I guess I didn't overeat too badly yesterday.

    We are having unseasonally warm weather, so I made it a priority to finally get out and clean up the flowerbeds a little (poor neighbours) this morning. I stopped partway through to have breakfast. I finished off the Greek yogurt. Usual additives, except I allowed myself a teaspoon of apple butter instead of stevia. I am grateful for stevia, but it still isn't my favourite flavour. I will probably continue to use it the rest of my life, in the things where it works well. Especially in my iced coffees in the summer!

    I am impressed by how much I am not in shape. That obviously has to be the next priority. I feel like a wet noodle out there.

    I think I'm going to have to rush out again. Sunshine is making a brief appearance.
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    Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
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    Oh Judg! Wow - I am so glad for you. You really are an inspiration for me. And you are so good at cheering us all on too I think you're awesome ... for what it is worth.

    When you have a fever you burn a LOT of calories, whereas when you 'just' have a cold you feel bad enough that you don't do much and you don't need as much as usual to fuel your body....
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    Didn't overeat yesterday at all - a half serving of fish stew for a snack and a big salad for supper, 3 dates and two squares of chocolate for dessert. Okay, that last bit was excessive. Anyway, I'm up almost another pound this morning. Which does not in any way surprise me, but it shows why Phase 2 - persuading your body to accept the new status quo - is so important. I'm trying to be a bit more careful today. All I've had is three small primal banana-berry muffins, made with fruit and coconut flour. Stomach was feeling a wee bit tender this morning when I pressed on it. I'm not sure if that is part of being sick, or whether some food is to blame. If so, I suspect chocolate. I'll back off all forms of chocolate for a few days, and when I'm all better, I'll try again to see.

    I am better today, but still not fully back on track. It doesn't help that I've been having a bit of difficulty sleeping. Not a lot, but enough that I'm a little short.

    I tried the detox bath last night. I haven't decided whether to do it again. I wasn't sure if it made me sweat at all (how on earth do you tell when you're wet all over?) but when I woke up in the middle of the night with a mouth as dry as sandpaper, it was pretty clear that I had. Yes, I forgot to drink a ton of water. Don't leave that step out. I was a little nervous about the ginger, as excess ginger has caused allergic reactions before. So I used the low end of what the instructions called for. I did feel a bit itchy at first, but I'm not sure if it was from the ginger or not. It did make me feel limp and sleepy. It did not help me get to sleep, even though I took the bath just before bed. That was half the point as far as I was concerned. As for health benefits, I have no idea how to tell. The jury is still out on whether I will try again. Not right away, that's for sure. I have to restock my Epsom salts, baking soda, AND ginger.

    I had lots of time to stare at my tummy and decide it definitely was not time to declare myself finished in the weight loss department. Might even try to knock off another pound or two before Christmas. Maybe. (Depends a bit on the red skirt that should be delivered any minute - I am doing more shopping online now to save running around.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Coll View Post
    Oh Judg! Wow - I am so glad for you. You really are an inspiration for me. And you are so good at cheering us all on too I think you're awesome ... for what it is worth.

    When you have a fever you burn a LOT of calories, whereas when you 'just' have a cold you feel bad enough that you don't do much and you don't need as much as usual to fuel your body....
    Blushing profusely.

    Ah, thanks for the explanation.

    As requested, here is a shot of the fuchsia sweater, artfully arranged and posed to hide the bulge that is still there. I am actually wearing it with a long scarf, which is serving the triple purpose of keeping my heating bills down, distracting attention away from various bulges, and adding a shot of white to the outfit.

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    5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
    Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
    Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

    More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
    - Lewis Mumford

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