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    Is Type 2 diabetes cured by eating Paleo/Primal diet?

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    The reason I ask is that my daughter-in-law works for a pharmaceutical company selling diabetic drugs to doctors to prescibe for their patients. She says type 2 is not curable but I've read a few success stories here and elsewhere but none long term. So! does eating this way result in permanent long term removal of symptoms of diabetes type 2. I would love to hear from people with success in managing this disease.
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    Hmmm, what do you mean by "cure"? I seriously doubt that anyone who was diabetic or pre-diabetic would ever be able to go back to eating a SAD (Standard American Diet, or in your case, possibly Standard Australian Diet ). If one did, I believe s/he would find themselves back in the same place as before. Totally IMO, but the best you could expect would be an abatement of the "markers" of Type 2 Diabetes -- that is, you would have normal range values for your triglycerides, your HDL/LDL ratios, etc. In that regard, I do believe it's possible to permanently remove the symptoms of Type 2 Diabetes, but only if you eat primally permanently.

    I don't think health is a static thing that we can achieve and then forget about. It's something that has to be maintained; you don't get healed and never have to think about it again. Kind of a lame analogy (pun fully intended), but it's not like breaking a limb, which will then heal and generally be fully functional again (or even only mostly functional). You can heal your health/metabolism, but you can also do things to damage them again.

    All that said, I too have read success stories here and other sites, and I hope to find that I have dropped back out of the pre-diabetes to the "normal" range when I next have blood work done. I hope to get off the blood pressure medications and not have to take any diabetes medicines. I don't really know how badly I've damaged my metabolism over the years (various diets, terrible eating practices, and advancing age and being post menopause). Perhaps all I can achieve is improvement, but I won't know unless I try it, so I'm trying it.

    HOW primally one would need to eat to improve or eliminate the diabetes markers probably depends entirely on the individual.

    ETA: Many diabetes medications bring along a whole host of other problems.
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    A lot of people have eliminated their need for medication and their diabetes symptoms have disappeared eating this way. But diabetes exists on a spectrum, different countries even have different definitions of it. "Cure" sounds like you can go back to the old ways and not have diabetes anymore. I think it's more "Primal is likely to dramatically reduce the severity of diabetes depending on a lot of factors." I have not seen ONE case of a diabetic person's symptoms worsening on primal.
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    In a word, yes. Google Dr. Richard Bernstein.

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    I seriously doubt that anyone who was diabetic or pre-diabetic would ever be able to go back to eating a SAD

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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasFaust View Post
    I seriously doubt that anyone who was diabetic or pre-diabetic would ever be able to go back to eating a SAD
    Well, really no one should be eating SAD. Eating SAD causes Type 2 diabetes. Eating an ancestral diet reverses that. I do not understand the desire to return to all or any part of a WOE that causes disease.

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    No, and I think Kurt Harris makes a good point on this. Paleo and other WOEs are palliative, not curative. If it was actually curative, you could go back to a SAD WOE and be fine.

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    Diabetes can be managed very successfully on a primal/paleo/low-carb/LCHF diet -so much so that many achieve and maintain completely normal blood sugar values. But if they go back to eating a high-carb diet (and carbs are the main enemy in their case, there's no doubt about that), they would go back to high blood sugars and diabetes...

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    It probably doesn't 'cure' it, but it does treat it, which is all people should worry about imo. I went paleo/low-carb 6 weeks ago after a test showed I was borderline pre-diabetic. My blood-glucose dropped to the low end of normal within a few days.

    I've no doubt the figures would go up again if I went back to eating what the powers that be want me to eat, but that isn't going to happen, much to the disgust of my GP. I tend to look at it the other way round now - paleo/low-carb may not cure T2, but high-carb with lots of sweet fruit certainly causes it.

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    I am a type II diabetic and have been since 2005. In talking to my endo, she feels it is possible to put diabetes in remission for a fair number of years. She does feel that when you slow down as you age that it will probably make a re-appearance. I have an extremely strong family history and although she feels it is possible for me to put it in remission given my current numbers, with a large weight loss and exercise, she feels that it is unlikely that I would keep it longer than about 10 years. She say once the tendency is there it is always going to be a fight.

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