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    Quote Originally Posted by Forgotmylastusername View Post
    Lol. I just read that bulletproof thread. I can't believe some people put 100g of butter in their coffee. That's about 800 calories, about half my daily intake, and it provides about the same amount of nutrients from a bite size of liver. No wonder there's a lot of "why am I not losing any weight" threads being made. People buy into that "fat doesn't make you fat" rubbish spouted by Taubes and Rosedale.
    I agree with others, butter is a condiment for light sauteing and it's a healthier condiment than most oils because it does contain small amounts of nutrients, but it's hardly a super food.


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    Also, to put in into perspective. Lets compare butter to what most people consider the ultimate empty caloric food, white rice.


    800 calories of butter provides approx:
    Vitamin A 100% RDI
    Vitamin D 10% RDI
    Vitamin E 15% RDI
    CLA (hard to find a source, lets assume well over 100% RDI if there was a RDI)
    Vitamin K (hard to find a source, lets assume well over 100% RDI)

    800 calories of unenriched white rice provides approx:

    Calcium 6%
    Vitamin B6 0.37228 mg 19%
    Iron 10%
    Thiamin 0.1589 mg 11%
    Riboflavin 0.11123 mg 7%
    Niacin 3.632 mg 18%
    Pantothenic Acid 2.30178 mg 23%
    Folate 18.16 mcg 5%
    Magnesium 56.75 mg 14%
    Phosphorus 261.05 mg 26%
    Potassium 261.05 mg 6%
    Zinc 2.4743 mg 16%
    Copper 0.4994 mg 25%
    Manganese 2.46976 mg 123%
    Selenium 34.277 mcg 49%


    (Note:The white rice bought from stores in the US or Australia are enriched and have a much higher vitamin and mineral content than the unenriched versions I have listed here)


    In conclusion. Logical - Adding a cup of rice, a teaspoon of sugar or a bit of fat to a meal.
    Not logical - Freaking out over a teaspoon of sugar or a cup of rice but adding slabs of butter to coffee.

    Edit.
    Here's the nutrient content of 800 calories of typical store bought white rice.
    Magnesium 75.6 mg 19%
    Phosphorus 270.9 mg 27%
    Potassium 220.5 mg 5%
    Zinc 3.087 mg 21%
    Copper 0.4347 mg 22%
    Manganese 2.9736 mg 149%
    Selenium 47.25 mcg 68%
    Vitamin B6 0.5859 mg 29%
    Thiamin 1.0269 mg 68%
    Riboflavin 0.0819 mg 5%
    Niacin 9.2988 mg 46%
    Pantothenic Acid 2.457 mg 25%
    Folate 365.4 mcg 91%
    Iron 7.56 mg 42%
    Phosphorus 270.9 mg 27%
    Zinc 3.087 mg 21%
    Copper 0.4347 mg 22%
    Manganese 2.9736 mg 149%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forgotmylastusername View Post
    Also, to put in into perspective. Lets compare butter to what most people consider the ultimate empty caloric food, white rice.


    800 calories of butter provides approx:
    Vitamin A 100% RDI
    Vitamin D 10% RDI
    Vitamin E 15% RDI
    CLA (hard to find a source, lets assume well over 100% RDI if there was a RDI)
    Vitamin K (hard to find a source, lets assume well over 100% RDI)

    700 calories from unenriched white rice provides approx:

    Vitamin B6 0.3034 mg 15%
    Thiamin 0.1295 mg 9%
    Niacin 2.96 mg 15%
    Pantothenic Acid 1.8759 mg 19%
    Folate 14.8 mcg 4%
    Zinc 2.0165 mg 13%
    Copper 0.407 mg 20%
    Manganese 2.0128 mg 101%
    Magnesium 46.25 mg 12%
    Selenium 27.935 mcg 40%
    Phosphorus 212.75 mg 21%
    Potassium 212.75 mg 5%
    Iron 1.48 mg 8%
    Calcium 51.8 mg 5%
    Plus a few other trace vitamins and minerals.

    (Note:The white rice bought from stores in the US or Australia are enriched and have a much higher vitamin and mineral content than the unenriched versions I have listed here)


    In conclusion. Logical - Adding a cup of rice, a teaspoon of sugar or a bit of fat to a meal.
    Not logical - Freaking out over a teaspoon of sugar or a cup of rice but adding slabs of butter to coffee.
    Oh come on, let it go guys. A cup of rice crap compared to a moderate amount of butter. We are talking about butter as a food that compliments other foods, the foods where we get plenty of micronutrients from. High micronutrient density is not the only thing that qualifies something as a nutritious food. Fat and fatty acids are necessary nutrition. Man, and I thought I was going to stop responding to this thread. Just goes to show how weak I can be sometimes!

    We all know how important omega 3s are. If we ate just the fat from fish, would that not be considered a food source and just a measly condiment? Would it be considered less valuable than rice just because it lacked micronutrient value?

    I think I will take the beneficial combination of fatty acids, some vitamin A, and vitamin K2 when eating butter over eating a cup of rice that feels like air in my mouth and stomach any day.
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    Here's another comparison just for comparisons sake. One that was mentioned earlier, Molasses and cream.

    1000 calories of Heavy cream. (Anything that provides less than 5% or less RDI wasn't included.)

    Vitamins:

    Vitamin A 92%
    Vitamin B12 0.5616 mcg 9%
    Vitamin D 84.24 IU 21%
    Vitamin E (Alpha-tocopherol) 3.3072 mg 17%
    Vitamin K 9.984 mcg 12%
    Riboflavin 0.3432 mg 20%
    Pantothenic Acid 0.7956 mg 8%

    Minerals:

    Calcium 202.8 mg 20%
    Phosphorus 193.44 mg 19%



    1000 calories of Molasses:


    Vitamins:

    Vitamin B6 2.479 mg 124%
    Thiamin 0.1517 mg 10%
    Niacin 3.441 mg 17%
    Pantothenic Acid 2.9748 mg 30%

    Minerals:

    Calcium 758.5 mg 76%
    Iron 17.464 mg 97%
    Magnesium 895.4 mg 224%
    Phosphorus 114.7 mg 11%
    Potassium 5416.8 mg 115%
    Zinc 1.073 mg 7%
    Copper 1.8019 mg 90%
    Manganese 5.661 mg 283%
    Selenium 65.86 mcg 94%

    Bonus points to molasses for keeping your horses coat nice and shiny.
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    Black strap molasses is pretty good stuff, especially if you are an athlete. But, you are comparing apples and oranges dude. Sheesh...

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    It now clear. Butter is a food and molasses is a food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morganpmiller View Post
    Oh come on, let it go guys. A cup of rice crap compared to a moderate amount of butter. We are talking about butter as a food that compliments other foods, the foods where we get plenty of micronutrients from. High micronutrient density is not the only thing that qualifies something as a nutritious food. Fat and fatty acids are necessary nutrition. Man, and I thought I was going to stop responding to this thread. Just goes to show how weak I can be sometimes!

    We all know how important omega 3s are. If we ate just the fat from fish, would that not be considered a food source and just a measly condiment? Would it be considered less valuable than rice just because it lacked micronutrient value?

    I think I will take the beneficial combination of fatty acids, some vitamin A, and vitamin K2 when eating butter over eating a cup of rice that feels like air in my mouth and stomach any day.
    Lol. Calm down man, I don't even eat rice often but I use butter pretty regularly. I'm just making some interesting comparisons, I thought people might find calorie per calorie break down interesting, it's not a weight comparison it's strictly calorie for calorie. I'm not trying to say everyone should start eating rice, nor am I trying to launch a war on butter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roach View Post
    It now clear. Butter is a food and molasses is a food.
    Exactly. Molasses and cream are real food and both are the bee's knees. /thread
    Last edited by Forgotmylastusername; 04-17-2012 at 12:15 AM.

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    Yo Forgot, you kept getting on here seemingly trying to make an argument against butter being a food source. Then you make posts comparing it to rice and molasses. It appeared that you were putting butter down( daaaamn you!..haha), for not being the nutrient rich goliaths that rice and molasses were.

    I understand what you were doing Still, it totaly came off the wron way bro.

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    I Can't Calm Down! Buuuutttter! I ran out of BUTTER! Time to run to the all night Harris Teeter so I can get my fix!

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