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    Okay, I'm finally knuckling down and starting to pack. It's not like it matters what I wear or anything but I'm a bit worried about the food. This is the first time I have gone away since going primal. I can't take too much food and won't have a refrigerator, so I'm taking two cans of tuna and a small bottle of olive oil. Hopefully there will be some clean protein like plain chicken or maybe some hard boiled eggs and some vegetables, possibly a salad bar type set up. It's a university campus, so I am hoping for a cafeteria-style setup where I will have some good choices. The fact that I had a bad reaction to gluten ten days ago is motivating me to not eat anything suspect. It will be okay.
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    Good luck on the food.

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    Okay, so now the spambots are recycling the nasty comments about spambots. Unreal. And that one has been around for a while.
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    Here si am at the retreat. You would not believe the weird stuff we are doing! The leader. Matthew Fox, was excommunicated by the Pope Himself., so he is quite a get for our little corner of the world. I am posting from my kindle fire., whet a pain this is. Can't correct errors. Very easily and it keeps. Capitalizing everything. Staying primal but it is hard as the stupid comments are everywhere. Also my back. Is horridly painful again. Every time I think it is better it flares up.

    Anyway., lots of unusual exercises. He had us laying on the floor making noise from our third chakras. I might have got more out of this except my back hurt so badly, and I had to lee. And I don't. Mind saying that I felt pretty inhibited. But he is Right, we don't. Know how to grieve. In our west Erna society. The takeaway will be interesting once I find out what that is!
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    I'm getting a good chuckle out of the interesting pauses and ideas due to spelling and capitalization.
    I didn't even know people WERE excommunicated anymore. Interesting.
    Sorry about your back. But be strong in your food, and ignore those comments. You'll be grateful for it in how you feel. And sorry if you have to deal with food ughs on top of your back pain.
    Hope you are learning lots of great stuff!

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    Wow, my post is even more philosophical than I thought! I think. I have some publishable material there! But the really Meaty stuff will have to wait for a real computer. Hot as Hades here and many folding chairs are making me ponder Hell. Still primal although I am eating more than I need to. Weird when your eating is by necessity on someone else's schedule.
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    Home and very glad to be here. Don't know where to start and don't have time anyway, I could write pages. Must get to some housework. I am having quite a chuckle over my post from my Kindle Fire. Yes, we live in a west Erna society! Kind of like Narnia, maybe.

    I learned a lot about being a warrior, although I didn't know it at the time.
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    Looking over my notes from the retreat, I wonder that one person could incorporate so much into his own philosophy and worldview - Matthew Fox is truly extraordinary, a modern-day prophet and mystic. He was excommunicated for, among other things, referring to God as Mother, preaching Original Blessing instead of Original Sin, embracing spiritual practices from Native Americans, Hindus, Buddhists, and others. Also for stating his belief that heaven will be filled not just with Christians, but with Buddhists, Jews, Muslims, those who have found their place in the universe, etc. Oh, and you don't need to bow to anyone or give money to any organization to get there. Real heretic! He has a tremendous passion for justice and enthusiastically promotes the Goddess and the Holy Spirit. He is inspirated by Meister Eckhardt and Hildegarde of Bingen as well as Julian of Norwich (my personal favorite mystic). And many others, of course. He told us that everything we do is sacred (or can be), to use art as meditation, to embrace moral outrage, that religion is about fecundity and abundance, not fear and sinfulness. About how our culture gags us, the evil that we see around us is the opposite of the sacred. The dehumanizing ideal forced on us that all can be explained by science. He quoted Aquinas, "One human can do more evil than all the other species together." Religion is compassion, and compassion is religion. Compassion is another name for God.

    When things come together in life, in kind of a collision of ideas from different areas, that is a sign to me that things are going right. He spoke a great deal about becoming a warrior, and in many cultures to be a warrior means to be a prophet, a lover, a mystic, not a soldier. It is the inner work, dealing with fear, strengthening the heart to keep fear at bay - to live in the now, leaving the ghosts of the past behind, with no fear of the future. To be courageous is to have a big heart.

    He preached that we need to move away from the "casino capitalism" that has devastated the world and build an economy based on sustainable growth and justice. Get ourselves out of denial and express moral outrage! Our system is based on false values and can't be fixed - we need economics that work for every being on the planet, including the plants, the oceans, the animals. We are sold ignorance by the media, and the biggest sin of all is ignorance.

    Whew!
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    Alright, covered some of the spiritual side. The physical side - the 1 1/2 hour car ride killed my back, and fighting back pain was a constant struggle during the entire weekend. Every time I think it is gone, it flares up again. I wish I could go to the chiropractor this evening! The long hours spent sitting in uncomfortable folding chairs exacerbated everything. Why is that such a common thing in our society? To sit for hours at a time? We should never sit for more than 45 minutes or so, and maybe we should never sit at all.

    Stayed primal although a bit heavy on dairy. Drank a great deal of whole milk with coffee and stevia - is that ever good! I reasoned that it was a way to get nutrients and fill myself up without hogging all the meat - this is a communal eating situation after all, and everyone deserves a chance at the protein. I took my own bottle of olive oil and doused my salad. I ate no desserts, and didn't want to. I would say I was as primal as I could get without preparing everything with my own hands. No potatoes either. Breezed by the pasta - never liked cafeteria-style pasta anyway. No pancakes, no french toast with fake syrup (corn syrup). Lots of apples and a banana every day. As far as staying primal, it helps that I have a fear of gluten and a possible reaction.

    The only bad news diet wise - my skin has suffered a minor breakout. Three small zits on my face and some bumps on my arms. I am pretty sure this is because of the rather large amount of milk I drank. Dairy always seems to get lumped into one category, but in my experience there is a big difference between a splash of milk in coffee or tea or an occasional taste of really good cheese, and fermented dairy IHMO is a different beast altogether. Actually drinking a lot of milk seems to be the problem for me.

    Also, not something we like to talk about but I had some irregularity that I usually have trouble with when I am forced onto someone else's schedule. No leisurely waking routine and using a communal bathroom pretty much guarantee that my business doesn't get taken care of properly. Now that I am home that problem seems to be solved.

    So glad to be home!
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    Welcome back. Sorry you're in pain. Hopefully that will subside quickly.
    5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
    Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
    Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

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