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    Quote Originally Posted by abstract View Post
    I say just give up on the concept of bread. Just stop considering it food. It's over. That's it.
    Ok everybody, stop with this bread nonsense, Abstract says knock it off so KNOCK IT OFF!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaohinon View Post
    Taco's food porn thread has been around for a while; long enough that he was probably eating nut flour crap before the word got out that starch was ok and piles of rancid fat were not.

    Although I'm skeptical of how much nut flour is really denatured. Doesn't roasting reduce the phytic acid content? And does this mean I'm eating rancid fats every time I make pesto?

    What exactly makes it rancid? I see that word tossed around a lot around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nigel View Post
    Have you tried gluten free bread? My daughter is a Coeliac and I gave her bread a go once and that was more than enough.
    Have you tried Udi's products. I love them and they make a bun that is just the best. I prefer them toasted but they are great just right out of the package. I do not eat much bread but when I am craving it I just pull it out of the freezer and it is the best and I have tried many over the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
    There is no such thing as paleo bread. There are more nuts in a loaf of that bread than Paleo man would probably eat an a year. Do you know what happens when you grind up nuts and bake them? They're loaded with omega 6, and you denature them when you grind them and then heat them up well past the smoke point of the fats. You're taking in twice as many calories versus normal wheat bread and more oxidized omega 6 than you'd eat in weeks. That's just what I want to put into my body - rancid fat and incomplete proteins in the shape of bread.

    Seriously, this is the "paleo" answer to the vegan's "fake meat". I'll say it again - there is no such thing as "paleo bread". I will eat sourdough wheat bread long before I touch that nasty abomination.
    Strongly agree. There are gluten free grains you can make bread out of if you a) need bread and b) are really, really sensitive to gluten. Nuts are a moderation, if that, food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobert View Post
    What exactly makes it rancid? I see that word tossed around a lot around here.
    When PUFA interacts with oxygen it spoils / goes rancid / gets oxidized easily. Most PUFA rich oils go bad pretty quickly - therefore nuts have a relatively short shelf life but because they don't "rot" we treat them as if they are spoilage proof. Oxidized PUFA = bad fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tfarny View Post
    When PUFA interacts with oxygen it spoils / goes rancid / gets oxidized easily. Most PUFA rich oils go bad pretty quickly - therefore nuts have a relatively short shelf life but because they don't "rot" we treat them as if they are spoilage proof. Oxidized PUFA = bad fat.
    Oil is not flour, close but not. Most people, I hope, store nut flour and oil in the fridge or freezer which extends the shelf life tremendously. So once again why is this rancid word tossed around so easily, because oxidization makes just about everything rancid eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobert View Post
    Oil is not flour, close but not. Most people, I hope, store nut flour and oil in the fridge or freezer which extends the shelf life tremendously. So once again why is this rancid word tossed around so easily, because oxidization makes just about everything rancid eventually.
    Nuts have oils in them which go bad, whether they are pulverized into flour or eaten whole. Actually they'll probably go bad more quickly after being pulverized into flour. Many times they are probably rancid before you ever buy them, regardless of how you might store them afterwards. Nuts should not be a dietary staple for many reasons, rancidity is just one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TARNIP View Post
    I actually found some bread recipes (made with almonds, flax) that you have baked on your primal recipes thread??????
    I made a banana-style bread once probably a year ago when I first started Primal and wasn't aware of how bad it is to bake nut meals and flax. Every once in a blue moon I'll use a nut meal to make a cheesecake crust, but I'll never make some phony bread out of it. Any "bread" style thing I've made since has been with appropriate flours - white rice flour, tapioca starch, sorghum flour, coconut flour, etc. These flours are safe to heat and have next to no polyunsaturated fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
    I made a banana-style bread once probably a year ago when I first started Primal and wasn't aware of how bad it is to bake nut meals and flax. Every once in a blue moon I'll use a nut meal to make a cheesecake crust, but I'll never make some phony bread out of it. Any "bread" style thing I've made since has been with appropriate flours - white rice flour, tapioca starch, sorghum flour, coconut flour, etc. These flours are safe to heat and have next to no polyunsaturated fat.
    Ahhh ok, thanks for clearing up the confusion I actually made your Coconut Almond Flax bread the other day and it was delicious........probably shouldn't be making it anymore now

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