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    Quote Originally Posted by JudyMac View Post
    You know that applies to Paleo/Primal? Most bad scientists have the knee jerk reaction that it would be bad because of fats.
    You're conflating a bit of CW that we believe to be misguided about fat content of our diets with claims that are roughly equivalent to unicorns and fairy godmothers. We know the "hypothesis" (isn't really one) behind the blood typing diet relies on assumptions that are demonstrably not the case.

    You can't improve scientific knowledge by running random experiments based on outlandish claims, you have to do so by positing an explanation of a mechanism in a feasible way and testing the universe to see if it follows your proposed rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudyMac View Post

    As a scientist I'd say that his idea needed a full clinical study.
    Are you a scientist? In what capacity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichMahogany View Post
    You're conflating a bit of CW that we believe to be misguided about fat content of our diets with claims that are roughly equivalent to unicorns and fairy godmothers. We know the "hypothesis" (isn't really one) behind the blood typing diet relies on assumptions that are demonstrably not the case.

    You can't improve scientific knowledge by running random experiments based on outlandish claims, you have to do so by positing an explanation of a mechanism in a feasible way and testing the universe to see if it follows your proposed rule.
    You have read the original hypothesis? It sounds more like you are reacting to marketing hype about the Blood Type diet.

    In the modern version, it links the behaviour of the blood agglutination to lectins as a fact, in the original it is posed as a possibility that needed study. Knowing what we now do about lectins, this seems unlikely. However the fact is that he saw the physical change, and Dr Peter Adamo Snr was a blood work specialist. Whether that change was caused by bad practice or a real food connection is worth study in my opinion.

    Also of note, all those type Os? He recommended a diet that reads as pure Paleo/Primal (recommnding dumping cereals and legumes), which would benefit a higher percentage of the population than the 1% Ancel Keyes believed to be aided by HCLF. A study done using his food recommendations would benefit HFLC scientific study as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Scientist View Post
    Are you a scientist? In what capacity?
    I love the idea that you feel anyone disagreeing with your narrow minded view is not a scientist. Obviously your type of science can not use a mouse...if you bothered looking it is there.

    Oh and its Dr, not the medical variety though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudyMac View Post
    I love the idea that you feel anyone disagreeing with your narrow minded view is not a scientist. Obviously your type of science can not use a mouse...if you bothered looking it is there.

    Oh and its Dr, not the medical variety though.
    I simply asked if you were, in fact, a scientist like you claimed to be. I also have a PhD. Mine is in cell biology. I'm telling you that you are wildly ignorant to the topic you are discussing. You are embarrassing yourself.

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    Oh my lord, this is the funniest thread ever.

    The blood type diet is quite possibly the stupidest, most absurd hypothesis ever to rear its ugly head. Seriously, if our good health depended on knowing our blood type and adhering thusly to a set of "good" and "bad" foods, how in the good goddamn did we ever survive and evolve as a species for this long, a time period in which we've known about blood types for the proverbial blink of an eye?! How anyone can believe in this stuff at all is completely beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudyMac View Post
    I was first referring to my own experience with it. It was right about some foods for me.
    Yeah, but some parts of your horoscope are right for you too.

    I think that blood type stuff is BS.

    The Scientist is completely and very right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudyMac View Post
    You have read the original hypothesis? It sounds more like you are reacting to marketing hype about the Blood Type diet.
    Stopped after the part about Blood type O being the oldest, despite the fact that A predates the common ancestor of modern day humans, chimpanzees, & bonobos.

    Quote Originally Posted by JudyMac
    In the modern version, it links the behaviour of the blood agglutination to lectins as a fact, in the original it is posed as a possibility that needed study. Knowing what we now do about lectins, this seems unlikely. However the fact is that he saw the physical change, and Dr Peter Adamo Snr was a blood work specialist. Whether that change was caused by bad practice or a real food connection is worth study in my opinion.
    And the study would support the claim that digestive systems of people of different blood types varies how?

    Quote Originally Posted by JudyMac
    Also of note, all those type Os? He recommended a diet that reads as pure Paleo/Primal (recommnding dumping cereals and legumes), which would benefit a higher percentage of the population than the 1% Ancel Keyes believed to be aided by HCLF. A study done using his food recommendations would benefit HFLC scientific study as well.
    So, sociologically, one wrong theory (blood type diet) would cause less harm than another (Lipid hypothesis), so we should fund scientific studies which will fail to reinforce the former? What are you talking about?

    I'm not a doctor or a scientist or a genius or a lawyer or a politician or anything. But I think I'm intellectually justified in agreeing with this
    Quote Originally Posted by The Scientist
    You are embarrassing yourself.

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    We will have to agree to disagree.

    Mine are in Biomedical Engineering and Clinical Nutrition. I can see some things that I personally would investigate, you don't.

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    This discussion is like the proverbial bad penny that just keeps turning up.

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