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    Justaseeker,

    I will double-check our deductible. Maybe it's 5,000 oop. I am not sure how it works, either! I know when DH was allergy tested a couple of years ago, we barely paid anything. I don't think that was the same year as his colonoscopy. Anyway, we intentionally bought a bare-bones policy to keep premiums down.

    No, this isn't the same doctor that I found on the website. I went to an allergy clinic to see if food or other allergies could be contributing to a problem I have. No such luck. On to the dermatologist. Or not, if I can figure it out myself. Still thinking about him though. I want to pick their brains at the hfc first, they are very familiar with him.

    I like our new family doctor, the one who did the extensive blood work on DH, but he put DH on a statin. We are not happy, and told him so, but it's just a small amount and hopefully just for a short time until his re-check in June. Either way, DH says he won't take it past June. I guess the doctor can like it or fire us!LOL He also put DH on niacin, but he got a rash and quit taking it.

    Remember how I told you that DH likes quick results? Well, he is off the iodine. Grizz and some of the other male participants in the Iodine Thread were getting such fabulous results, but nada for DH. I told him it could take six months or more.

    Thanks for the link. I need to go get ready for an appt, I'll read it when I get back.

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    I don't know that you will find the one that fits just right, but I hope your gut will tell you what is the best choice for you. I'm dealing with an issue where two lawyers advised me to do something I don't want to do. I'm hoping the one who has the particular expertise I need will still work with me when I say no, I'm not going to do it that way. Is there a reason not to meet with the new doctor and see what she says and if you like her and then actually ask your current doctor if there will be a problem with you using the other doctor as well? Sometimes rules like that have many exceptions. Is there any chance that there is a doctor who would prescribe natural thyroid hormones in your current doctor's group? I saw a suggestion to someone that they ask a pharmacist which doctors prescribe the natural version in order to find the right doctor. Don't know if it would work but it is a clever idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwynn View Post
    Justaseeker,

    I will double-check our deductible. Maybe it's 5,000 oop. I am not sure how it works, either! I know when DH was allergy tested a couple of years ago, we barely paid anything. I don't think that was the same year as his colonoscopy. Anyway, we intentionally bought a bare-bones policy to keep premiums down.

    No, this isn't the same doctor that I found on the website. I went to an allergy clinic to see if food or other allergies could be contributing to a problem I have. No such luck. On to the dermatologist. Or not, if I can figure it out myself. Still thinking about him though. I want to pick their brains at the hfc first, they are very familiar with him.

    I like our new family doctor, the one who did the extensive blood work on DH, but he put DH on a statin. We are not happy, and told him so, but it's just a small amount and hopefully just for a short time until his re-check in June. Either way, DH says he won't take it past June. I guess the doctor can like it or fire us!LOL He also put DH on niacin, but he got a rash and quit taking it.

    Remember how I told you that DH likes quick results? Well, he is off the iodine. Grizz and some of the other male participants in the Iodine Thread were getting such fabulous results, but nada for DH. I told him it could take six months or more.

    Thanks for the link. I need to go get ready for an appt, I'll read it when I get back.

    Gwynn
    You can always write to me privately and we could put our heads together to see if we can figure out that mysterious issue.

    I can't believe that doctor put DH on statins after those lab results that he got! I am all for not allowing labs to rule over clinical judgment, but in that case those labs were pretty clear. You may recall that I doubted that any competent doctor would prescribe statins, so now I wonder about that new doctor.

    Well, you can't force DH to do iodine - and he did give it a try in the sense that he took larger doses and not just for a month. But, you may be right that he needed to do it longer before he would see any results - although I would have thought he should have seen SOME changes before then.
    I feel like I ought to be wearing a bumper sticker that says: "Don't follow me I am lost." I am just a seeker like everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamsc View Post
    I don't know that you will find the one that fits just right, but I hope your gut will tell you what is the best choice for you. I'm dealing with an issue where two lawyers advised me to do something I don't want to do. I'm hoping the one who has the particular expertise I need will still work with me when I say no, I'm not going to do it that way. Is there a reason not to meet with the new doctor and see what she says and if you like her and then actually ask your current doctor if there will be a problem with you using the other doctor as well? Sometimes rules like that have many exceptions. Is there any chance that there is a doctor who would prescribe natural thyroid hormones in your current doctor's group? I saw a suggestion to someone that they ask a pharmacist which doctors prescribe the natural version in order to find the right doctor. Don't know if it would work but it is a clever idea.
    That is a clever idea, asking a pharmacist.

    In this case, though, there is more involved than natural thyroid - there is also iodine. I was looking for an iodine friendly doctor who wouldn't freak out if my TSH was elevated during the early months on iodine and who understood how iodine fits into the whole picture, especially with regard to thyroid. That would be the new DO. I found her via the iodine literate doctor's list.

    Here are the criteria for inclusion on the Breast Cancer Choices iodine literate doctor's list:

    Iodine Literate Practitoners Directory

    What defines an Iodine Literate Practitioner?

    Breast Cancer Choices and the major iodine user groups define an
    Iodine Literate Practitioner as a person who:

    • has read all the writings the Iodine Project initiated by
    • A. Guy Abraham, MD, David Brownstein, MD, and Jorge
      Flechas, MD.

    • is conversant with Iodine: Why You Need It: Why You Can't
      Live Without It, Fourth edition, by David Brownstein, MD.

    • Never prescribes seaweed in any form. The toxins in
      seaweed can now include arsenic, pesticides, radioactive
      waste and heavy metals.

    The Iodine Doctors' works explain the comprehensive context of
    individualized iodine therapy, the companion nutrients and how the
    50 mg dose was calculated.

    If a practitioner routinely prescribes adults iodine under 50 mg,
    does not know why each of the companion nutrients is used, is
    unfamiliar with salt loading, auto-immune disease treatment or
    interpreting the idiosyncrasies of iodine patient TSH test reports,
    then Breast Cancer Choices does not recommend them.
    I feel like I ought to be wearing a bumper sticker that says: "Don't follow me I am lost." I am just a seeker like everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamsc View Post
    I don't know that you will find the one that fits just right, but I hope your gut will tell you what is the best choice for you. I'm dealing with an issue where two lawyers advised me to do something I don't want to do. I'm hoping the one who has the particular expertise I need will still work with me when I say no, I'm not going to do it that way. Is there a reason not to meet with the new doctor and see what she says and if you like her and then actually ask your current doctor if there will be a problem with you using the other doctor as well? Sometimes rules like that have many exceptions. Is there any chance that there is a doctor who would prescribe natural thyroid hormones in your current doctor's group? I saw a suggestion to someone that they ask a pharmacist which doctors prescribe the natural version in order to find the right doctor. Don't know if it would work but it is a clever idea.
    So, to continue....I may not be able to tolerate 50 mgs of Iodoral because of my stomach, but I am willing to consider it and would be happy to have the new DO explain the rational to me and to answer my questions. I am willing to have the new patient meeting with her to discuss my reasons for seeing her and to see what she advises.

    I don't want to ask my MD for permission, but prefer to simply include the information in my next file update along with the changes to my supplements. I'm using this file to keep track of my medical status in general, including testing results. I take it with me when I travel so its available any time that I see a doctor.

    My MD is already comfortable with my having a second doctor in my Southern home, come to think of it, so now I will simply extend that situation to include any alternative doctors that I want to see here as well. I have already told her about my having this insurance plan that allows me to self-refer and that I travel routinely so need to be free to see other doctors. She was fine with that.

    In fact, when she made the statement about how they keep services in the system during my new patient visit with her, my response was - OK, and I'm also sure that specialists outside the system can be seen if/when needed, right? She didn't say anything - but mainly she didn't tell me that I didn't have that right. So, my fingers are crossed. If I get "fired", well, that's so ridiculous that I will simply find a better doctor and not worry about it.

    I hope that the attorney doesn't get huffy about being the "expert" and your not taking the expert advice. Good luck.
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    I feel like I ought to be wearing a bumper sticker that says: "Don't follow me I am lost." I am just a seeker like everyone else.

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    Yesterday evening we euthanized our old Mastiff mix. It was time. He was very old for a giant breed dog. He had health issues - and some pain. Finally, he had lost his mobility. So, it wasn't unexpected in general - but the exact timing wasn't known before yesterday.

    I'm feeling the need for quiet time to myself for awhile. So, I won't be writing here at MDA until I feel like rejoining the discussions here. Meanwhile, let me share a poem that a friend just shared with me.

    I'M STILL HERE.....


    I stood by your bed last night, I came to have a peep.
    I could see that you were crying. You found it hard to sleep.


    I whined to you softly as you brushed a tear,
    "It's me, I haven't left you, I'm well, I'm fine, and I'm here."


    I was close to you at breakfast, I watched you pour the tea,
    You were thinking of the many times, your hands reached down to me.


    I was with you at the shops today. Your arms were getting sore.
    I longed to take your parcels, I wish I could do more.


    I was with you at my grave today, you tend it with such care.
    I want to reassure you, that I'm not lying there.


    I walked with you towards the house, as you fumbled for your key.
    I gently put my paw on you, I smiled and said "It's me".


    You look so very tired, and sank into a chair.
    I tried so hard to let you know that I was standing there.


    It's possible for me, to be so near you everyday.
    To say to you with certainty, "I never went away".


    You sat there very quietly, then smiled, I think you knew,
    in the stillness of the evening, I was very close to you.


    The day is over...I smile and watch you yawning
    and say "goodnight God bless, I'll see you in the morning".


    And when the time is right for you to cross the brief divide,
    I'll rush across to greet you and we'll stand, side by side.


    I have so many things to show you, there is so much for you to see.
    Be patient, live your journey out...then come home to be with me.
    I feel like I ought to be wearing a bumper sticker that says: "Don't follow me I am lost." I am just a seeker like everyone else.

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    Sorry to hear that Justaseeker - I've been in that situation myself and it is hard to lose someone who is a member of your household.

    Best wishes and I hope we have you back soon.

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    oh justaseeker...I am so so sorry & I am with you in spirit & share your pain as we had to put down our beloved 15 yr old Chocolate Lab, Maggie a year ago last October. She was my constant companion for those 15 years & I was so bereft. She died in my arms & honey was right there as well. He & our son buried her in the back of the pasture she enjoyed roaming.

    Thank you for sharing the poem. It made me cry & I do believe she comes to me occasionally. Especially at the beginning. I will never have another animal that meant as much to me as she did. It will get easier to bear as time goes on.

    I'm sending you healing vibes & big big hugs!!!! Come back to us when you feel you are ready. We'll be here.
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    So sorry for your loss. I wish you peace mixed in with your grieving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justaseeker View Post
    You can always write to me privately and we could put our heads together to see if we can figure out that mysterious issue.

    I can't believe that doctor put DH on statins after those lab results that he got! I am all for not allowing labs to rule over clinical judgment, but in that case those labs were pretty clear. You may recall that I doubted that any competent doctor would prescribe statins, so now I wonder about that new doctor.

    Well, you can't force DH to do iodine - and he did give it a try in the sense that he took larger doses and not just for a month. But, you may be right that he needed to do it longer before he would see any results - although I would have thought he should have seen SOME changes before then.
    (((Justaseeker,)))

    I am so so sorry to hear of the loss of your dog. I will pm you about all this stuff later.

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