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    It's not sugar making Australian's fat....

    'The Sydney University nutritionist Jennie Brand-Miller holds out a tempting message for sweet tooths and companies such as Coca-Cola: sugar is not to blame for obesity in Australia.
    The Australian Paradox is the title of a scientific paper Professor Brand-Miller and the Australian Diabetes Council research adviser Alan Barclay have written. It seeks to show that while obesity rates continue to swell, refined sugar consumption has fallen in recent years.
    Although mainstream nutrition specialists have distanced themselves from the finding, the food industry, and Coca-Cola, have seized on the study to oppose tougher advice against sugar in the nation's diet bible.'


    Research causes stir over sugar's role in obesity

    '''This is not about commercial interests,'' Professor Brand-Miller says. ''This is about a considered, expert opinion based on being a nutritionist for 35 years and having a sincere belief that sugar in moderation contributes to a safe and healthy diet.''



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    Moderation? by drinking coke? what idiots! (I'd love to know who funded the study!

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    "In response, Professor Brand-Miller says Mr Robertson is not a nutritionist and does not understand nutrition."

    Checkmate!

    What exactly is meant by "refined sugar"? If they just mean white sugar while leaving out HFCS and other sweeteners well...then...that's a problem with the study.

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    These two seem to be intent on telling the world, loudly, just how silly they are. They seem to like to see their names in the news... maybe it draws in more money for their research. Anyway, I suspect this earlier story put their noses out of joint a bit...
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    Ummmm...she is just friggin splitting hairs! She blames refined starches- which equates with what? SUGAR!

    #%*~. IDIOTS!

    I did not seen disclaimer about conflict of interest in her article either....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meatgrrrl View Post

    '''This is not about commercial interests,'' Professor Brand-Miller says. ''This is about a considered, expert opinion based on being a nutritionist for 35 years and having a sincere belief that sugar in moderation contributes to a safe and healthy diet.''

    Opinions?
    Opinons? Here's one: what has science to do with "sincere beliefs"?

    Actually that "sincere belief" is a tacit admission that she's making it up.

    She also offers absolutely no evidence for her assertion that "commercial interests" are not a problem in food production, distribution, and supply. Wow! that's a big one.

    I mean I can say what I like about anything

    The tidal wave was unrelated to weather conditions ...

    Human history has been shaped by periodic visitations by space aliens ...

    Despite popular belief, Franz Schubert did not have venereal disease ...


    and so on ...


    However, personally, I do like to cite some kind of evidence for assertions I make. (Or, alternatively, offer some kind of argument for consideration, if the matter is philosophical rather than scientific or sociological, since there you're dealing with necessary truths, what must either be so or not.) But perhaps "nutritionists" are exempt from that need to back up what they say.

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    The worst thing is that some people will believe it enough to continue eating the stuff.
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    Brand-Miller takes about a million dollars a year from Kellog. Science for sale
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    There is no such thing as a paradox in science. If anything appears to be a paradox, then it means either
    A.) Your research was conducted incorrectly.
    or
    B.) Your conclusions are wrong based on the evidence.

    So, if someone sites a "scientific study" that includes a paradox, it's not true science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peril View Post
    Brand-Miller takes about a million dollars a year from Kellog. Science for sale
    Wow, is that all?

    Quote Originally Posted by IcarianVX View Post
    There is no such thing as a paradox in science. If anything appears to be a paradox, then it means either
    A.) Your research was conducted incorrectly.
    or
    B.) Your conclusions are wrong based on the evidence.

    So, if someone sites a "scientific study" that includes a paradox, it's not true science.
    Excellent. I love this. Totally totally right.

    FWIW, I could conduct a better paper entitled 'When I go out, I look at what people eat in Australia'... which would basically be waaaay too many carbs. I only have to drive by my local McDonalds in the morning to see people stuffing pancakes and maple syrup or those breakfast bun things down their necks to know that Aussies are eating waaaay too much crap.

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