Fibromyalgia and Fat - Tomi's story page 5

[tomi]

May I ask where and what quantities are available?

We buy from a farmer over in the Salt Creek, Oregon area, we split a cow with a friend every year. We're about to see about ordering another - I will let you know if they have any available.

[tomi]

@judg --- Bacon and eggs are totally permissible and encouraged unless you're trying to lose weight. Even Mark suggests not having them everyday if your trying to lose - simply because of the high fat content. Primal/paleo is all for good healthy fat - but we still have to be mindful of the amounts. Too much of even a healthy thing can derail our best efforts to be healthy and cause a gain - or at least prevent a lose.

This lifestyle isn't "about" losing weight - but it can certainly be used as a tool to lose weight - and I believe its the best tool available. We just have to learn how to use it correctly.

I'm working on it............ Sounds like you've made a lot of progress over the years and are on the right track. Now just have to give up those beans..............dang it! have a good day.

[Judg]

@judg --- Bacon and eggs are totally permissible and encouraged unless you're trying to lose weight. Even Mark suggests not having them everyday if your trying to lose - simply because of the high fat content. Primal/paleo is all for good healthy fat - but we still have to be mindful of the amounts. Too much of even a healthy thing can derail our best efforts to be healthy and cause a gain - or at least prevent a lose.

This lifestyle isn't "about" losing weight - but it can certainly be used as a tool to lose weight - and I believe its the best tool available. We just have to learn how to use it correctly.

I'm working on it............ Sounds like you've made a lot of progress over the years and are on the right track. Now just have to give up those beans..............dang it! have a good day.

Gotcha. Makes sense. I'm still feeling my way on a lot of these things. There's a massive amount of data to absorb around here. I'm not here primarily to lose weight, although I still need to lose some more. I want to feel better. I do think I've been eating perhaps a bit too densely since I've started this, but at least I'm not gaining. And I wasn't planning on having bacon and eggs every morning, out of sheer laziness. Not a morning person.

Thanks for the info!

[tomi]

Gotcha. Makes sense. I'm still feeling my way on a lot of these things. There's a massive amount of data to absorb around here. I'm not here primarily to lose weight, although I still need to lose some more. I want to feel better. I do think I've been eating perhaps a bit too densely since I've started this, but at least I'm not gaining. And I wasn't planning on having bacon and eggs every morning, out of sheer laziness. Not a morning person.

Thanks for the info!

I'm sorta where you - wanting to feel better is my FIRST goal. But if I can lose weight while I'm getting there then I'm going for that too! I am at 189 still - and my goal is also 135. I've got the feeling better part down pretty good - it could be better, but that I think I need to move more for that to happen.

I was eating bacon and eggs every day - and several people on the forum let me know that is probably what is stalling my weight loss - HOWEVER - I haven't had any for 3 weeks, and still no weight loss. So, it wasn't the bacon and eggs. Or if it was, the benefits of not eating it haven't showed up yet. My biggest problem is impatience! I have a hard time making a commitment to sticking to one method for more than 2 or 3 weeks. If I don't see a little encouragement from the scale I want to chuck it and move on to the next thing. I'm fickle I guess. I'm going to stay with the 80x3 thing - and I'm going to try fasting. Hopefully the scale will move. I'm hoping there is nothing wrong with my thyroid or adrenals, as has been suggested by a few ladies on the She groks thread.

Well -- stay in touch - I wish you the best! Lots of good reading on MDA! Just beware of the "nutrition" forum - there are a lot of odd ball things being suggested there.

[Judg]

Yeah, forums are like that. They're public places and they attract the wild, the weird, and the wonderful.

As far as weight loss is concerned, benefits usually show up within days, so my thought is that you've mastered a maintenance routine, but to lose, you're going to have to either up the outflow of energy or decrease the inflow of calories, or a bit of both. If you compensated for the lack of bacon and eggs with something equally caloric, you're still at maintenance. You could probably afford to have them occasionally, either in smaller quantities, or with a little cutting back later in the day to compensate. The intermittent fasting thing could very well help too. That tends to work well with me. I'm better at cutting things out altogether for a while than systematically depriving myself a little bit. I was very impressed when I saw that Mark actually agreed with that way of doing things, seeing as it has always worked well for me, despite what dieticians tell us.

I'm going to have to figure this all out for myself as well. I knew where the balance was on my semi-vegetarian regime, but it will probably take a while to figure out on PB. So far I'm maintaining, and I will probably have to listen to my own advice to see some change. Mind you, I don't care if weight loss goes very slowly, as long as it keeps going. It had been going very slowly for quite a while anyway.

[IrishYeti]

I haven't read all of your posts but I was attracted to following your story because my wife was diagnosed with fibro last year. She is not involved with MDA, but I think that is because I've been talking about it for so long and constantly failed at revealing the benefits. I'm sticking to it this time and I think my wife's illness, although it's relatively under control now, will be motivation to follow through and cut a trail for her to follow me on.
I plan to get back and read the rest of your journey, hopefully later this evening. We are both really busy with our five children! Good luck and I hope to read more from you down the road.

[tomi]

I haven't read all of your posts but I was attracted to following your story because my wife was diagnosed with fibro last year. She is not involved with MDA, but I think that is because I've been talking about it for so long and constantly failed at revealing the benefits. I'm sticking to it this time and I think my wife's illness, although it's relatively under control now, will be motivation to follow through and cut a trail for her to follow me on.
I plan to get back and read the rest of your journey, hopefully later this evening. We are both really busy with our five children! Good luck and I hope to read more from you down the road.

IrishYeti - I started this journal with the hope that others with fibromyalgia would run across it and perhaps be encouraged to try this lifestyle for themself. I would be more than happy to explain to your wife what changing my diet has done for me. It's given me hope for a better future than I was expecting before. Its absolutely the answer for fibromyalgia, and I believe many other autoimmune disorders. As you will (or have) read, I'm struggling to figure out the weight loss part, but I've got the eating part down right as far as eliminating my fibro symptoms.

I would LOVE to help your wife........... tomi

[marcadav]

I haven't read all of your posts but I was attracted to following your story because my wife was diagnosed with fibro last year. She is not involved with MDA, but I think that is because I've been talking about it for so long and constantly failed at revealing the benefits. I'm sticking to it this time and I think my wife's illness, although it's relatively under control now, will be motivation to follow through and cut a trail for her to follow me on.
I plan to get back and read the rest of your journey, hopefully later this evening. We are both really busy with our five children! Good luck and I hope to read more from you down the road.

My fibromyalgia pretty much resolved itself when my thyroid function was optimized in regards to free T4 and free T3. Other things that needed to be addressed include: vitamin D, iron including ferritin, and female sex hormones.

[Michiko]

Hi Tomi! This is my first visit to your journal. Although I don't have fibromyalgia, I can relate to a lot of what you've shared. I'm one of those who's always willing to try different things to optimize my results. My main goals are to get fit, lose some weight and avoid all of those terrible diseases that run in my family. My dad just passed away in October last year and he suffered with so many problems related to diabetes. That's what really woke me up to get started on saving my own butt, so I've been pretty much following the Primal Blueprint since then.

Good that you've quit the statins, too! I was diagnosed with high cholesterol a few years ago and my doc wanted to put me on them. I told her that I'd try to fix it with a healthy food plan, losing weight and exercising. She didn’t sound very enthused by the idea, but I don’t want to be on any medications if I don’t absolutely have to. A few months later I was re-tested and all my numbers were in the healthy range. I do a lot of research and found that 45 minutes of moderate intensity cardio was supposed to really help reduce cholesterol, so that’s what I did 4-5x per week. At the time I was doing a high protein/high carb/low fat diet.

Earlier this week my doc took blood again to check on a few things, one of which will be cholesterol levels again. I’m really curious to see how my numbers differ this time around since I’ve been eating primal since October. I don’t do cardio 5x a week anymore, but I do exercise almost every day - either LHT/Primal Blueprint Essential Movements, high intensity elliptical or calisthenic workouts, interval training/sprints, resistance bands, hiking (I live in the mountains) or walks with some jogging, playing DDR, biking or what I call hard-ass yoga.

As long as there's no other medical reason for your cholesterol being high, I think that if you add in some regular cardio, you might have some luck with dropping those numbers. Especially since you're already eating so healthily!

[KimT]

Hi Tomi! Just wanted to stop by to say hope you're having a great day!

I've been back on track almost the whole week, dropped 5 pounds, and avoided the pizza craving last night that my husband and I almost gave into by heating up the homemade chicken soup instead. So much happier today for that decision.

Have a great pain-free day!