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    Add spicy heat to a rub or homemade condimenets without using peppers.

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    I don't do nightshades so any of the spices in that heading are out. Black pepper was never really "spicy" for me. So i;m curious if there is some other spice or something out there i could had to my homemade mayo and mustards to make them a bit spicy.

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    Have you tried horseradish? That would be my first suggestion. Depending on the usage, pickled ginger would add a bit of sharpness.

    Are you making the mustard from scratch? Playing with the amount of mustard seed and various vinegars and wines may have interesting results.

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    I don't do nightshades either and miss the spicy stuff. I do find that ground white pepper has a heat to it that is nice. Horseradish is great with mustard - especially if you buy the pure stuff. Ginger can be spicy in some dishes as can raw garlic.

    I also changed some of my condiments. I make a red onion relish now instead of ketchup that has a nice bit (Diced red onion, cilantro, lime juice, white vinegar, salt - let sit together for 1 hr - 4 days). I also really like to make some chimichurri sauces. Parsley, cilantro, olive oil, salt, onion, raw garlic ...pureed in to a thick sauce. You can add anything you want to that one - vinegar, water, white pepper....it adds a nice "kick" to food.
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    Why not peppers? In terms of nightshade sensitivity, peppers are usually the least likely to have a reaction. Tomatoes seem to be the biggest offender. Are you sure you're particularly sensitive? I'd never give up my hot peppers. Ever.
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    If you can find it, English mustard (e.g. Colman's) has definite heat to it.

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    I haven't been able to eat hot peppers in 2 years without getting an instantaneous headache and sinus flareup. It sucks.

    Other spicy foods : wasabi, white pepper, mustard, red onion, horseradish, daikon radish

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
    Why not peppers? In terms of nightshade sensitivity, peppers are usually the least likely to have a reaction. Tomatoes seem to be the biggest offender. Are you sure you're particularly sensitive? I'd never give up my hot peppers. Ever.
    Through great experimentation I've determined that nightshades, and red pepper/paprika/cherry tomatoes in particular, give me bad hand cramps. And then calve cramps that keep from sleeping at night. I can eat non cherry tomatoes with little problems though. Its just peppers seem to cripple my hands for a day or so so i've had to get rid of them. Sucks. I use colemans mustard in bulk to make my mustards and the heat from that isn't so much spicy as it is you've lit a bon fire in your mouth, throat and nose. I'm kinda looking for something i could pair with a little stevia for a sweet heat type of mustard. Turmeric does a kind of job but its not enough for me.

    I'll look into horseradish today though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie Madrox View Post
    Through great experimentation I've determined that nightshades, and red pepper/paprika/cherry tomatoes in particular, give me bad hand cramps. And then calve cramps that keep from sleeping at night. I can eat non cherry tomatoes with little problems though. Its just peppers seem to cripple my hands for a day or so so i've had to get rid of them. Sucks. I use colemans mustard in bulk to make my mustards and the heat from that isn't so much spicy as it is you've lit a bon fire in your mouth, throat and nose. I'm kinda looking for something i could pair with a little stevia for a sweet heat type of mustard. Turmeric does a kind of job but its not enough for me.

    I'll look into horseradish today though.
    Ah man, that's rough. It's kinda funny since a lot of people with joint pain find relief through the use of capsaicin.

    You could try the obvious:
    - Black pepper
    - Horseradish
    - Wasabi

    But these are a very different kind of "hot" than a hot pepper.

    The closest you'll probably get are sichuan peppers.

    Sichuan pepper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Sichuan/Szechuan peppers aren't anything like black pepper or chili peppers, but they can be pretty damn hot. You may have to go to an Asian grocer to find them, or order them online.

    Szechuan Peppercorns 1 lb. bag: Amazon.com: Grocery & Gourmet Food
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    Got some horseradish yesterday. Works very well for what I was going for.

    and I'll definitely look into those szechuan peppers. I'm always up for new things. Closest Asian market to me is about an hour but i plan on going to get some purple sweet potatoes so this gives me another reason to get over there.

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