Damn. I had a fantastic year and half on primal with effortless weight loss and then maintenance. I guess the honeymoon is over.
I got weighed today (I only weigh every couple months). I have a normal range of 6 lbs I bounce within weight wise. I was two lbs above my "normal high" weight today - which is 8 lbs above my low weight . I'm only 5'3'' tall so that is a jean size.
It is real gain. I knew I had gained. My smallest jeans don't fit anymore and I clearly have extra body fat.
Time to figure out what the hell I changed that is making this happen.
You ate too many calories.
I sound like a broken record here.
The paleo diet is not a weight loss diet. You can eat healthy food and gain weight or lose weight or maintain weight depending on your calorie intake.
There's nothing magical about eating paleo that will put you into a permanent state of weight-loss. That just defies logic.
Ummm....duh? You could change your name to captainobvious.
The beauty of paleo eating is that my caloric intake has been controlled entirely (for nearly two years) through the satiety mechanism which is the ONLY way humans can control their own caloric intake long term. Your calorie control theory is only half right - which makes your constant spouting of "control your calories" super ill informed and annoying.
As far as the "duh" bit goes ... if I could give you a dollar for everytime someone on this forum tried to argue that it's not calories, it's carbs (or hormones, or whatever), you'd be a rich man. I'm glad you find it obvious, as do I. That is not true for many posters here.
What's more, it's simply not true that its the "ONLY" way humans can control their own caloric intake long term. Loads of people have been able to lose weight, and keep it off long term without ever having heard of paleo. This may sound a little silly, but it's true: your stomach stretches the more you eat. The more you eat, the more you need to eat to fill that stretched out stomach. This is the real reason overweight people feel hungry all the time. It's not "crazy hormones" like the pseudo-scientists would have you believe. The fantastic news is, the less you eat, the less you want to eat. Your stomach contracts too. By keeping meals small, you can train yourself to be "less hungry".
I'm getting side-tracked though. I do agree with you that it is an excellent method to control the satiety mechanism to some extent. I think your own thread (this one) is evidence enough that the "natural satiety" of eating paleo will only get you so far. If you're a person who is struggling with their weight, you're never going to reach that ideal physique if you don't do some serious calorie counting and gym work to achieve your goals. Just blindly eating paleo without a thought for calories, or assuming paleo will "naturally regulate" you into a lean, strong physique, is wishful thinking. It might help you shift a bit of weight when you start, or maybe a lot of weight (depending on where you started), but there will come a point you have to get a bit more strict than "just eat paleo foods".
Last edited by captaineight; 03-15-2012 at 10:01 PM.
As for the ripped musclular physique, again I think there are tools that people use that help them control caloric intake including fasting and periods of low carb eating. I am not to that point yet, I was very happy just being a nice healthy weight that I looked good in most clothes.
The problem I have with your approach is you only have a half truth and your implication is that people who are eating too much are simply weak and/or stupid. I find it offensive and so do many people around here. Do some reading on satiety and regulation of food intake. The latest research indicates it is a far more complicated mechanism than you appreciated. It is regulated is a similar way to breathing. You CAN control your rate of breathing for a while, but your body WILL change the rate against your will if it wants more oxygen.
I lost all the weight I originally wanted and kept it off without ever going hungry a single day by eating primal food. My willpower didn't get better and now worse. Clearly I've done something to throw of my hormonal homeostasis which is causing me to eat more calories. That is what I am going to address. No way, no how will I be counting calories at this point in my life (unless I developed thyroid or other hormonal issues which seems to make calorie counting necessary)
Jammies I came here to post the exact same thing; I've also gained back 8 pounds suddenly after nearly two years of cravings and binge free eating (IF had always been so easy) suddenly I'm munchy all the time and leptin reset isn't working. I never snacked now if I try to just eat breakfast and dinner like I have been doing for almost two years I feel ravenous all day. I did do a short course of Cipro and also my thyroid meds were changed and my old endo believed that thyroid meds can act to increase hunger by aggravating stomach hormones but hearing others with the same problem not on thyroid meds I'm hopeful that it's not that (because I am otherwise better on this dose). I know I need IF to break this hunger/binge cycle but for the first time, abstaining from eating is causing more eating - a typical response for low fat low cal dieters, the opposite of my experience with paleo
Anyway, you're not alone. We'll figure this out!
totally primal since 5/16/2010, 40 years old my journal
240+/128/121 (I'm 5'3")
I generally have used IF as well - not long, just 14-18 hours. But I have been really struggling with it too. Not exactly sure why. Has your fat intake changed at all? I think mine has dropped a bit. I do KNOW that I have let too much sugar sneak back in to my diet. I have even gotten in the habit of having a small bottle of apple juice and a milky way candy bar 2-3 days a week . So ashamed So I guess I know what I am doing wrong. I'm just confused as to why now suddenly it is a problem. I need to stop with sugar and up the fat. I just wish it could be completely effortless like it has been all along......