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    Quote Originally Posted by huntingBears View Post
    seriously, try not washing the face, or the oil cleansing method, both sound counterproductive but they're possibly the most effective treatment, and we're all here because of our disillusionment with CW
    I always use makeup, how do I wash it away without hurting the skin? Now I wash my face always before bed with Dr. Bronners almond soap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tovek View Post
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    For me it doesn't work out that well. I do almost constantly have a cold. My energy is gone. I also feel strange mentally. Some days I can suddenly feel very sad and start to cry without reason. People have told me I look strange, particulary in the eyes which are always strange blank. I feel this is all because of the drug, and it feels all but natural and friendly to my body. I don't think we can take shortcuts and challenge the laws of nature like this without getting something else bad in return.

    I have decided to skip the medication for a while and totally try focusing on the food. But I want to know more, have anybody of you get rid of the acne through primal diet? In that case, how?

    Hi Tovek,

    I dont know your history, but you may have an unhealthy gut.

    If you have ever taken antibiotics or the pill then chances are you have damaged gut flora. ...thats on top of poor diet, stress, etc.

    You may want to look into the GAPS diet for healing your gut. You may have bad flora and pathogens in your gut like Candida which is creating toxicity in your body which shows up as acne.

    My acne has reduced ALOT from following a GAPS/anti-candida diet. I hardly get acne on my back (I used to get it REALLY BAD!) and my face acne is slowly getting better.

    Google 'natasha mcbride gaps vimeo' and there is a great video that you should find about GAPS.

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    I always use makeup, how do I wash it away without hurting the skin? Now I wash my face always before bed with Dr. Bronners almond soap.
    olive oil makes a brilliant makeup remover apparently, put some on a tissue and wipe it away, then rub some olive oil into your face and by the morning it should be really soft, you'd think putting oil on your face would cause spots but it does the opposite, it tells your body to stop producing sebum
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    Quote Originally Posted by huntingBears View Post
    olive oil makes a brilliant makeup remover apparently, put some on a tissue and wipe it away, then rub some olive oil into your face and by the morning it should be really soft, you'd think putting oil on your face would cause spots but it does the opposite, it tells your body to stop producing sebum
    I can attest to that! I now wash my face with a non-soap cleanser in the evenings to get rid of the make up and Honey in the mornings, which is antibacterial (and makes you smell nice).

    I have never heard of Accutane, but I have been on anti-biotics such as Oxytetracyline for my acne since coming off the contraceptive pill 10 years ago. The irony was I came off the pill because I didn't want to be putting artificial chemicals into my body then ended up on anti-biotics because nothing else worked!

    I stopped the antibiotics 3 weeks ago now after encouragement on these boards. I bought some high dose probiotics and make sure I get Kefir and Yoghurt every day, that together with the Primal diet seems to have helped. I still get spots, but not as many, and they don't last as long either. I also have fewer of the really sore lumps that just appear.

    Ideally I should give up dairy to see if that helps, however that would mean giving up my yoghurt and I really like it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozbuckley View Post
    Hi Tovek,

    I dont know your history, but you may have an unhealthy gut.

    If you have ever taken antibiotics or the pill then chances are you have damaged gut flora. ...thats on top of poor diet, stress, etc.

    You may want to look into the GAPS diet for healing your gut. You may have bad flora and pathogens in your gut like Candida which is creating toxicity in your body which shows up as acne.

    My acne has reduced ALOT from following a GAPS/anti-candida diet. I hardly get acne on my back (I used to get it REALLY BAD!) and my face acne is slowly getting better.

    Google 'natasha mcbride gaps vimeo' and there is a great video that you should find about GAPS.
    This is really strange. I was just thinking of writing a post about candida, hah. Here is my story about candida(which I am not that proud of):

    About four years ago, I first got genital candida. I had it for a few months before I checket it, and when I saw the doctor she put me on Pevaryl which is a candida-killing cream. It didn't work, so I tried other similar creams(stupid as I was). None of them worked. I saw the doctor again, after a few months. I got prescribed Fluconazol(an antibiotic), which didn't work either. After that, I didn't do anything about the problem for a long while, because I have been told It wasn't dangerous. Last summer, the doctor(another one) put me on fluconazol, twice. Without any success. I haven't been taking anything more since, instead I have been focusing on eating less candida-feeding food. The itching isn't as bad as before.

    BUT: There is another problem, which started to appear last spring:
    I started to have strange toilet visits now and then, once or twice a week. They start with some stomach ache, and I feel I have to go to the toilet. I have to sit there for at least ten minutes til it's over. It hurts sometimes very much, and it feels like my gut forces out everything that's in it and wants to completely empty it. It comes way more than a regular visit, and the soil is softer and contains undigested foods like seeds. Since last spring I have had these "attacks" now and then.

    I saw the doctor about it, but I didn't mention the candida. He didn't even mention it as a possible reason for my problem. I am going there again next week to finally solve this. Can the genital candida spread to the gut? I have searched for info about this but haven't found any answer. But it seems likely that the problem with my body is candida. My acne problems have been way more severe the last two years, while I have suffered from genital Candida..

    I should definitively read about the anti-candida diet you describe. I have thought of that before, but it's hard to change my diet that extremely. If the doctor sends me to a specialist, what treatment do you think they'd put me on if it's candida I suffer from?

    Thank you, ozbuckley!

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    Hi Tovek,

    I too had terrible acne and took Accutane after years of other medications. Looking back, I can honestly say that severe acne (with cysts, ugh cysts) was so much better than the effects the Accutane had on my body. Not only did I have awful terrible dry skin while taking the medication, I was also depressed. After Accutane I became lactose intolerant and perhaps developed IBS. Now... 6 years later, I'm researching to decide if my suspected PCOS (and potential infertility, which is just awesome to think about) is because of the Accutane or the acne was because of the PCOS.
    That said, my diet was AWFUL before the Accutane and after it when my skin flared again. In my 3 weeks of a mostly Primal lifestyle, my skin has cleared tremendously. It's not red and inflamed, it's not nearly as oily, and I have about 10% of the breakouts I did before Primal. That's in just a few weeks! I know for a fact my diet and stomach were a wreck for the last 10 years and my skin was just a symptom of that. Here's hoping that I can clear my skin for good and be the healthy person I want to be through a Primal Lifestyle. Not sure my story is of any help to you, but I wanted you to know that you're not alone and it does get better. If you're afraid of Accutane, ditch it. I wish I had, or at least had taken the time to really educate myself on what it would cause down the road.

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    I know people can suffer terribly from Acne and it's not to be taken lightly, but you sound like you are at the verge of clinical depression, maybe caused by the accutane. I would say you also sound like you'd like to try doing without it. So do it! Take two or three months off and see if paleo helps. I don't really have much acne, but I can tell this is really good for the skin. I'm glowing! Me! I have a 2 and a 4 yo, and sure wasn't glowing before I went paleo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashleyinalaska View Post
    Hi Tovek,

    I too had terrible acne and took Accutane after years of other medications. Looking back, I can honestly say that severe acne (with cysts, ugh cysts) was so much better than the effects the Accutane had on my body. Not only did I have awful terrible dry skin while taking the medication, I was also depressed. After Accutane I became lactose intolerant and perhaps developed IBS. Now... 6 years later, I'm researching to decide if my suspected PCOS (and potential infertility, which is just awesome to think about) is because of the Accutane or the acne was because of the PCOS.
    That said, my diet was AWFUL before the Accutane and after it when my skin flared again. In my 3 weeks of a mostly Primal lifestyle, my skin has cleared tremendously. It's not red and inflamed, it's not nearly as oily, and I have about 10% of the breakouts I did before Primal. That's in just a few weeks! I know for a fact my diet and stomach were a wreck for the last 10 years and my skin was just a symptom of that. Here's hoping that I can clear my skin for good and be the healthy person I want to be through a Primal Lifestyle. Not sure my story is of any help to you, but I wanted you to know that you're not alone and it does get better. If you're afraid of Accutane, ditch it. I wish I had, or at least had taken the time to really educate myself on what it would cause down the road.

    Thank you for sharing your story, ashleyinalaska. It makes me want to go the natural way even more, I am inspired. I haven't been taking Accutane for two days, and I already feel I am on my way back to normal. It feels right. My stomach is a wreck, so I guess my immune system was at the bottom before the medication too. With 80% of the immune system in the gut I see reason to focus on the skin first. From now on I am going to eat a primal diet as possible, and I will focus on probiotic food and ditch ALL the sugars, and cut down with the dairy.

    I am sorry the medication have caused you trouble, it is not fun at all to hear. I am so angry the doctors give this out to easily..Hope you are getting well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tovek View Post
    I haven't been taking Accutane for two days, and I already feel I am on my way back to normal.
    Glad you stopped with it and are feeling better I too, did take accutane while younger, while it did stop my acne 100% at the time a year or so later it came back anyway. So only thing my course of accutane gave for my was one acne free year, permanent acne scars, depression, dry skin (still have), pretty sure I did devolope allergies to a bunch of stuff I normally could eat and a bunch of other shit, no one should touch that accutane shit.

    I would sugest you quit dairy 100% atleast for a couple of weeks to test, its usually not enough to just cut it down. Also cut grains 100%. Lots of people have had succes supplementing with Zink and fishoil. Probioitics usually help alot, especially for people whoe have taken antiobiotics and wiped out all good flora. I would also buy a good enzyme supplement to help digest the food.

    Then as always excercise is good (in moderation), and because your from Sweden, supplement with Vitamin D3, we Swedes are 100% deficient in that. I also like to go to the solarium ones in awhile, always good for my mood and helps with my depression.

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tovek View Post
    This is really strange. I was just thinking of writing a post about candida, hah. Here is my story about candida(which I am not that proud of):

    About four years ago, I first got genital candida. I had it for a few months before I checket it, and when I saw the doctor she put me on Pevaryl which is a candida-killing cream. It didn't work, so I tried other similar creams(stupid as I was). None of them worked. I saw the doctor again, after a few months. I got prescribed Fluconazol(an antibiotic), which didn't work either. After that, I didn't do anything about the problem for a long while, because I have been told It wasn't dangerous. Last summer, the doctor(another one) put me on fluconazol, twice. Without any success. I haven't been taking anything more since, instead I have been focusing on eating less candida-feeding food. The itching isn't as bad as before.

    BUT: There is another problem, which started to appear last spring:
    I started to have strange toilet visits now and then, once or twice a week. They start with some stomach ache, and I feel I have to go to the toilet. I have to sit there for at least ten minutes til it's over. It hurts sometimes very much, and it feels like my gut forces out everything that's in it and wants to completely empty it. It comes way more than a regular visit, and the soil is softer and contains undigested foods like seeds. Since last spring I have had these "attacks" now and then.

    I saw the doctor about it, but I didn't mention the candida. He didn't even mention it as a possible reason for my problem. I am going there again next week to finally solve this. Can the genital candida spread to the gut? I have searched for info about this but haven't found any answer. But it seems likely that the problem with my body is candida. My acne problems have been way more severe the last two years, while I have suffered from genital Candida..

    I should definitively read about the anti-candida diet you describe. I have thought of that before, but it's hard to change my diet that extremely. If the doctor sends me to a specialist, what treatment do you think they'd put me on if it's candida I suffer from?

    Thank you, ozbuckley!
    Hey mate,

    Well you can go to a naturopath and get a stool test done to see what organisms (including candida) may show up.

    Candida (yeast) problems always (from my knowledge) begin in the gut and that is where true healing takes place: in the gut!

    With your past use of anti biotics it is obvious that the health of your gut is very compromised. Your gut flora is probably all over the place and needs correcting.

    To overcome candida and fix up your gut health I would check out the GAPS diet. ...and it may be helpful to also eliminate fruit and dairy from the diet too for the first few months.

    The diet seems restricting at the start but if you read about the diet you will discover that this is one of the best ways to heal your diet and this seems to be a big chunk of where your ill-health is coming from.

    I wish you all the best...

    Oz

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