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    Thanksgiving and Christmas always have the same foods:

    Thanksgiving: turkey and ham at one dinner, Chicken and noodles at another dinner, turkey and all the fixings at yet another meal, and the final meal always includes deer & noodles and homemade vegetable soup.

    Christmas: chili at one dinner, pulled pork at another, deli sandwiches at yet another meal, and the final meal is a brunch with all kinds of different foods, but the hostess always makes biscuits and gravy...

    very few are primal meals...
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    that makes it tough, Jenn....... but still doable if you want to REALLY stick to plan. Unless the meat is mixed IN with the noodles - and then things get complicated. Might need to consider taking a plate of primal food just for you. If you go "off" at Christmas you'll be facing another carb flu and that really hard adjustment period back to primal.
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    I usually just skip over the occasional course. The other night, while everybody else was eating lasagna, I went out and washed the antipasto plates, and then loaded mine up with extra marinated veggies to munch on with everybody else. I try to spend as much time as I can clearing tables and such-like instead of eating (there is a LOT of food at an Italian family gathering) and when I can intercept a salad before the croutons go in, I dish myself up a helping before it hits the table, that kind of thing. If I knew the pickings were going to be really slim, I would either eat ahead of time or bring something myself. I don't complain or give them a hard time. Our family is getting so complicated with some vegetarians, some people with casein allergies or lactose intolerance, and now me, that it is kind of hard to cater to everybody. Which is the advantage of lots of different dishes. Almost everybody can find a little something.
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    My mom always makes lasagne on Christmas day (she usually invites my grandmom and her sister and my brother and SIL - we're at my in-laws then and so is my sister this year), so that's something I never made on Christmas Eve .
    My MIL usually makes a fish-platter for antipasti (lox, smoked trout, shrimp and a salad with lots of veggies) and leaves the dressing apart; some kind of vegetable soup (with homemade broth, because my SIL is alergic to MSG). Main dish is usually "vol-au-vent" (cooked chicken, meatballs and mushrooms in a white roux sauce), but she keeps some apart for me without the sauce .

    So, I've been on holiday last week with DH. We went to Hungary from Monday till Friday, the kids stayed with my parents (spoiled rotten as usual!!!). We were in a Bed&Breakfast in the middle of nowhere (friends of ours own the B&B). It was quite a shock, as there's a lot of poverty still there in the countryside . People living in houses without kitchen or bathroom: a whole in the ground in the garden with a little wooden "shelter" is their toilet; they cook on an open fire in the garden. I now know the meaning of "wheat belly": although very poor most people are overweight and have huge bellies. But if your income is 105$/month and you have 5 children, then you don't have money to spend on meat and bellies are filled with cheap bread and potatoes and whatever grows in the garden .
    It was also very strange for DH and me to visit a country where we didn't understand a word of the local language! Hungarian is a really "strange" language for us, as it's not in any way related to any language we speak (english/french/spanish/italian/german). I didn't even know how to say hello or thank you and even these "simple" words are difficult to pronounce in hungarian!
    We did have a lovely time though, quite primal too: lots of moving slowly, lots of sleep (no TV, no internet, so we went to bed before 9!). There are a lot of thermal baths in the area, so we went to one. Really hot water (it comes out of the ground around 80C/175F, so they need to cool it down before it can fill the pools) and lots of minerals. I think there was a lot of magnesium in it, but I didn't really feel the effects of it. DH did, his bowels were really clean the next morning . We spent the last day in Budapest, which is a really nice city! Would be worth going there on a city trip, lots of things to see and visit there! And the contrast is a lot less, not like in the countryside.
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    Sounds like a great trip. Sad about the poverty, though. It is a hard thing to see. Hungary is a member of the EU, isn't it? Amazing that there are still conditions like that in an area that we consider 'first world'. And yet, there are surely places almost like that, and maybe even exactly like that, within 100 miles of where I live, too.
    We are so lucky.
    Those baths must have been very relaxing. There are hot baths near (well, 6 hours) us in Arkansas. We went once when the kids were smaller and loved them. I'd like to do that again someday. It is a whole different things when it is Nature heating the water for you, and not your plumbing.

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    I have always wondered what it would be like to be so close and easily visit other countries. Living in the US feels so isolated. It takes long flights to get anywhere outside of our own country - with the exception to Canada (which we have never been). Living in Oregon makes it difficult to travel to European areas. We have to fly to the East Coast to get a connecting flight. Even flying across country almost always means a transfer somewhere - and layovers. Travel from Oregon to Floride can take the entire day if you don't find a direct flight. West Coast to East Coast is almost always Seattle to Chicago to New York (for example), or Seattle to D/FW to Florida. Sometimes a direct flight can be found out of Portland - but its becoming quite rare. So, travel for a vacation can take 2-4 days out of the entire trip!
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    It is indeed very nice to be able to travel to different countries as we do .
    I forgot to tell how our trip went food-wise: I think I managed to stay mostly primal. Our hostess at the B&B has been following a low-carb diet (Dukan) for a year now and lost a lot of weight with it and she knows we eat differently, so she just asked up front what we normally have for breakfast. So breakfast was primal: yogurt (not full fat, but not 0% fat either), fresh fruit, an omelet, local cheese and sausage, honey, fresh pineapple and avocado. She even managed to find banana chips (baked in coconut oil and slightly sweetened with cane sugar, so I just had a little bit of them in some yogurt).
    For lunch I tried to eat as clean as possible, but the language was definitely a barrier. I didn't "purposely" have any grains, but I do suspect there was some gluten in the gravy of one of the lunches I had, as I had a headache the whole next day. You know, when eating "bad things" has such an immediate impact on your health it makes it quite easy for me not to eat these bad things. We ate at local restaurants every lunch and the portions were soooo big we were simply too full to have dinner! We had a cup of soup (from our hosts) 2 nights, had a handful of nuts one night and some local cheese and sausage the last night for dinner. I did eat a potato once (it was boiled, sliced and with goats cheese in between the slices and on top, then broiled: YUM!), and lentils too.

    It had been weeks ago since I last weighed myself, so decided to weigh on Sunday: what a pleasant surprise to see the scale showing more or less the same weight (even slightly less) than the last time! I'm really happy that I've been able to keep my weight steady this year, even when eating everything I want (added sugar - although mostly honey or maple syrup - is my main "weakness")! In January I plan to do a W30, kind of a "sugar detox" after the holidays; and I plan to lower my caloric intake as I would like to loose some more weight (about 10 kg). So that's my goal for next year . Maybe I should add that to my signature!
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    Did you have any Hungarian Goulash? I went to Budapest a couple of years ago and have been trying to replicate the kind they made there ever since. It's very spicy and thick, and I loved it
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    Now if I were going to try a potato diet, that's the kind I'd want! Sounds delicious.

    You seem to have reached a great place with primal- not even thinking about the scales, but being pleased when you do hop on. Congratulations, Candy.

    I think there will be a lot of us doing some kind of reset come the new year. I know I am planning to start my weekly day fasts again, and maybe even a few-day fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricia View Post
    Did you have any Hungarian Goulash? I went to Budapest a couple of years ago and have been trying to replicate the kind they made there ever since. It's very spicy and thick, and I loved it
    No I didn't at all the restaurants we went there were dumplings or pasta in the goulash...and so many other things on the menu to choose . But I did have a local fish soup that was really simple yet delicious!

    @Sabine: I think what I tried to achieve this year is to get it "into my fingers" as they say around here . I'm confident with primal, know what to eat (and what not), got a routine going so we always have leftovers or good things to eat for breakfast and lunch. I don't have to "think" food anymore, I just eat when I'm hungry and try not to if I'm not. I remember "needing" snacks and so I ate lots of nuts in the beginning, but now I don't "need" these snacks anymore and I still eat nuts, but not daily and only a small handful. I know sugar is my weakness, if I bake sweets (although always grainfree and sweetened far less than commercial sweets and only with honey, maple syrup or coconut palm sugar) I will eat them - unless I'm doing like a Whole30, because I know I'm "not allowed" to eat those things for a limited time and that makes it easier. So know I have the routine, it's time to start tweaking and get those last 10 kg off .
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