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    Thank you, dragonmamma and 62shelby, for those good suggestions. I will keep them in mind :-)


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    Glucosamine/chondroitin obviously not primal, but here is an interesting anecdote. I have a son-in-law who is a marathoner. He's run in all the Motorola ones in Austin since the first. He used to have a border collie that ran with him. The media loved it, many pictures in the paper.


    She (the collie, not my son-in-law!) got to where she was in obvious pain. Rick started feeding her G/C. Before long, she was back in the pink! Obviously no psychosomatic factors here.


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    How are you doing, Hfox? Hope your joint pain is better.


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    Thanks, Karin, for checking in, and to all who have contributed to my discussion :-)


    The short answer is that the pain has improved dramatically.


    But in general, the pain is a very funny thing. The first time I noticed it was early in June, the night following a very traumatic blood test I had after seeing my doctor for the first time about the amenorrhea (having my blood drawn is my one real phobia). The pain woke me up in my sleep and stuck with me (sporadically) for about 10+ days, then kind of abated (and would continue to basically go away every time one of my doctor's appointments came around). When I was stressed, the pain worsened.


    I would wake up in the morning quite early from it nearly every day and (obviously) was generally very upset by it. The night before last, however, I just felt the urge to go to bed very early and slept for 12+ hours (this was the night before my next appointment).


    My real concern was that this unusual joint pain was a sign that I had lupus or something.


    After having given me a thorough exam and checking the mobility, etc. of each of my joints, the doctor (who is a D.O.) said that he thought the pain was stress related and insisted that there is nothing actually wrong with me. I've tried to calm down a lot lately, stop agonizing over things that are probably improbable anyway and have made an effort to think more positively when possible.


    I feel better, but I did take some Advil last night before bed. I might continue to take it if the pain is still vague, since it seemed to work in keeping it away.


    What's the consensus on using "anti-inflammatory" over-the-counter meds? Are they merely temporary pain-relievers or do they actually serve a purpose that may last long-term?


    And, to those who have discussed anxiety, does this somewhat fit into the anxiety scheme? Is my doctor's supposition that the joint pain stems from anxiety a reasonable one?


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    hfox, really happy to hear you are somewhat improved.


    I wouldnt rely on otc's as pain relievers long term.


    When I had a stress related muscular-skeletal injury I was trying to go au naturel, but in the end I relented and hit the robaxecet for a few nights, the muscles finally did relax and I got some sleep and as soon as I got a result I stopped taking them. Some of these otc's are damaging to filter organs, so long term use is not a good idea. I wasnt proud of using the robaxacet and I think it may have hurt my liver a bit. (a cautionary tale).


    If it were me, I would take the otc's maybe for a very short while to get some relief at least mentally as well as physically. I would be taking big doses of Omega 3, and putting the joint through gentle range of motion to get the fluid moving and stay away from any exercise that puts undue intense stress on the joint until you are more than satisfied that you are recovered, and then some.


    Really hope this clears up for you, I know how frustrating it is, we all want good health!


    p.s I have also had good results with the msm sulfa supplement for inflammation, check it out as well.


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    (To those who may be new to the forum, I'm a 20-year old female, weight ~145lbs, have not had my menstrual period in ~1 year and I lift very heavy weights 3x/week in addition to doing occasional aerobic exercise. My amenorrhea is due to too low body fat. I am otherwise perfectly healthy, I eat around 75% primal and have not had so much as a sniffle in around 2 years).


    Well, infuriatingly enough, my joint pain is still here. I went to a museum last week, was on my feet for several hours, ran across a few streets to make the train on time and my joints were feeling it not only that night, but also off and on until this morning.


    I've also recently started noticing this kind of subtle throbbing around the front and back of my torso..


    Lab-wise, I've had my Vit. D checked, was tested for rhumatoid arthritis, was given the autoimmune disease test, had my thyroid checked in addition to 5 other labs and all, fortunately, came back normal. Should I be skeptical?


    An orthopedist that I saw this morning said that my joint function was perfectly normal and that my x-rays did not indicate any arthritis. He advised me to get a referral to an endocrinologist (to deal w/ the amenorrhea) and a rhumetologist (for the joint pain, etc).


    It just feels like I'm spinning my wheels, here. Amenorrhea is no longer my central concern since I understand why I have it, am taking measures to gain body fat and, in the meantime, am on an oral contraceptive pill. The joint pain and throbbing is my number 1 worry.


    After what seems like a dozen doctor's appointments in the last 2 months, I still have no explanation for this whatsoever. Like I probably mentioned in the past, my primary care doctor tends to think my discomfort is related to stress. Initially, I accepted this simple explanation--but not anymore. I was not stressed in the least when I was recently at the museum, but the pain sure came back with a vengeance.


    Should I just get these two referrals, see these 2 additional specialists and go from there? Should I bother to see both? Does anyone know if one of them might be better suited to address my problem than the other?


    As usual, thanks for any suggestions or insights. I hope to GROK that there is a simple explanation for all of this.


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    When did you start taking the oral contraceptive? Could that coincide with the start of the joint pain?


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    I started it after the joint pain began. Thanks for the suggestion, though, musajen!


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    While I certainly don't have amenorrhea because, you know, you don't get it after a vasectomy..... I'll be interested in any joint pain responses and insights.


    I have knee problems going back to 1996 and wrist problems going back to a 1980 injury. In terms of my increased health benefits after going Primal, these are my only two wishes to improve upon.


    OP, maybe less exercise, which would help your BF? When I hear of women ceasing their periods due to low BF and work outs, I have to ask, "Why?" Mrs. Grok did not do that. You may snag an Olympic record but it is certainly not either normal or Primal.


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