House of Thin page 2

[kcarol]

fiercehunter -

I really appreciate the thoughtful reply. BTW, I am with you about adequate calorie intake. I study very diligently (undergrad biochem student), and I've experienced mental fatigue and inability to concentrate with caloric restriction. I prefer adequate calories. I'm only tracking calories at this point so I don't smack myself later if the scale isn't budging while I'm mindlessly in caloric surplus (overeating is easy for me, even high protein). Just to be safe. I just don't want too MANY calories.

Thanks for the IF advice too. I'm still working on IF. Spontaneous IF is no problem. I don't have to eat all the time (I prefer bigger meals to satiety). What I do have a psychological problem with is acknowledging I am doing IF, at which point I'll feel mentally caged in my own little starvation prison.

[Raphaella]

I got headaches from the lack of sugar. One time I ordered delivery and asked for a slice of cheesecake, and when the delivery came, I ditched whatever else I ordered (I think buffalo wings, just so I reached the max price limit), and downed the cheesecake. The headache went away. I felt like a real addict...and the way I had been so secretive about it...man that was *cough*, a low point.

And there was one night, I went the whole day without some sweet. I remember my mouth salivating, the headaches and the craving just aching in my mouth. I'm not exaggerating! Thankfully I've come a long way since then.

Tell me about it girlfriend. I got those headaches very often, usually it was because I had gone without sugar for a few hours. They were AWFUL and sometimes got so bad that they'd affect my vision. I'll get them now if I have some sugar after not having any for a while, luckily I found out that for me animal fat makes them go away quickly and completely.

Have you ever had brown outs?

[kcarol]

Hmm...define brown out for me?

[Raphaella]

^^^You should!! Life is short, why not? And you never know where pursuing your interests might take you!

A brown out is like, for me anyway, when you get really hot and clammy and your vision goes and you collapse but you don't lose consciousness. But you get very close to losing it. Blacking out for a few minutes while still staying awake.

The last thing I ate yesterday was bacon at 3 pm, which kept me so full I didn't want anything else. That's rare that I don't find myself hungry within a few hours. But I woke up this morning not hungry, not craving, but just wanting some hearty food. It was a good feeling.

Yay! This is how I've been feeling lately too, food keeps me full way longer and I'm not hungry when I wake up. The only time I wake up to a growling stomach is if I had something naughty the night before.

I've since stopped telling her whether I'm good or bad on my diet, because every time I tell her what I eat, I get the silent moment where I just know she's secretly thinking I'm eating myself to a heart attack.

Heh I get that same reaction a lot from friends...

[kcarol]

Thanks for the words of encouragement I just have this feeling I could be good at powerlifting. Maybe it's wishful thinking. If I trained and studied powerlifting, I might be able to coach others. That's another secret dream.

Okay, brown out, I've come sure CLOSE to those. I've had my vision go blank and felt myself about to knock out, but would sit down before I'd let that happen.

Ok, so you experience the hunger post-naughty eating too? I shouldn't be surprised...I actually wrote a term paper on food addiction. I was basically writing a term paper about myself, lol.

[kcarol]

A goal I'd like to reach:

Fit into my favorite thin-jeans fresh from the dryer, sans normally required "pant dance."

Upate 11/13: Done and done!

[Raphaella]

^^^LOL I hate doing the tight pants jig!!

Thanks for the words of encouragement I just have this feeling I could be good at powerlifting. Maybe it's wishful thinking. If I trained and studied powerlifting, I might be able to coach others. That's another secret dream.

That's just it! Who knows, you might get really into and and be lead to a new career!

Okay, brown out, I've come sure CLOSE to those. I've had my vision go blank and felt myself about to knock out, but would sit down before I'd let that happen.

That sounds just like it! Aren't they awful??

Ok, so you experience the hunger post-naughty eating? I wouldn't call it hunger, for good food, but a weird different hunger specific to more naughty food.

I think so too; I've heard before that stomach growling isn't actual hunger, that it's gastrointestinal irritation or something. I dunno, I only know that my stomach growls after I've been eating crap.

[kcarol]

I think so too; I've heard before that stomach growling isn't actual hunger, that it's gastrointestinal irritation or something. I dunno, I only know that my stomach growls after I've been eating crap.

If this interests you at all: this last summer, I only had 2 summer classes while not working (my job follows public school year). I decided to do try near zero carb. I had anywhere from 0 to 5 grams of carb a day, waiting as long as possible until I was really hungry. My main focus was finding hunger, and I thought the absence of carbs might help to compare to feelings I've come to interpret as hunger. BTW, his was before my awareness of something like a leptin reset.

My results? Well, it lasted about 3 weeks. Basically, I did get hungry. However, the hunger was coupled with an unbearable fatigue and headache I found unmanageable after a while. It made me think hunger might be overrated.

[kcarol]

Cooked a big breakfast with my dad this morning, and had a big meal later too. Needless to say I ate a lot.

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[kcarol]

I've never made my own food porn before, but I was pretty proud of this:

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Say hello to my burger shooters, with melted cheese and sliced avocado on top. I added some sea salt too. Note the sweet potato on the side.

It was a giant meal and I loved it.

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