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    I don't what to become this...

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    So, I know an old lady, now in her 70s, who can only walk short distances with her cane. Her hips pain her, and her knees and ankles are swollen most days. She can't lift her legs, so getting into a bathtub, or standing from lying down is impossible without help. Her fingers are crooked, and her hands partially immobile from the arthritis. Her nails brittle and cracked. She suffers with her skin being dry, and patches of psoriasis have begun appearing on her face, in small red patches. It itches, and looks sore. In other areas her skin is completely white, having lost it's pigmentation.

    She has always suffered from migraines and headaches, stress and tension. Her gums have receded, and bleed when she cleans her teeth. Her IBS is so bad that she 'runs' to the toilet after meals, and can't go far from the security of a nearby bathroom. In the past she has had major surgery for a stomach ulcer and a hysterectomy. She has suffered a lot with both these surgeries, and still has recurring problems as a result. She takes medication for high-blood pressure, warfarin for blood clots, and thyroid medication for an under-active thyroid, as well as a daily PPI to stop indigestion... among others.

    She couldn't breast feed me as a child, and I am beginning to realize that this may well have everything to do with my own digestive issues...

    And as I look at my mother, I dearly hope that I will not become like her. A body so frail and wrecked with these problems. Is there something I can do to prevent it? Is it genetic? Is it inherently inheritable? Can eating Primal stave off the inevitable? Or will I too begin to see my body fall apart as I get older?

    The problem is, is that although she has always eaten sugar, white flour bread and pastry, she has always cooked her own food (meat and 2 veg) eating things like offal and liver, and has always taken CLO since she was a child. She ate home grown vegetables, and chicken eggs from the garden, and plenty of fish too. I'm not sure how all of this could have been prevented, even though most of it looks to me like inflammation. Perhaps it is not preventable, and I am merely kidding myself?

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    Put it this way: you have nothing to lose by trying your best to be healthy.
    You may not entirely prevent health problems, but you should be able to manage them if you are proactive about your state of health.
    There aren't many problems in life that can't be solved by sleeping it off, or adding more butter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tealia View Post
    Put it this way: you have nothing to lose by trying your best to be healthy.
    You may not entirely prevent health problems, but you should be able to manage them if you are proactive about your state of health.
    Yep,nobody here is saying that getting healthy is going to make you bulletproof, but it's a hell of a lot better than doing things that we all know promote health issues and so on.

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    The key thing is that whilst eating good food she also ate the inflammatory disease causing ones to It's the same as eating healthy, exercising and then chain smoking. For the best chance you must eliminate ALL inflammatory foods, not even rice is ok.

    You absolutely can avoid this road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raine View Post
    The key thing is that whilst eating good food she also ate the inflammatory disease causing ones to It's the same as eating healthy, exercising and then chain smoking. For the best chance you must eliminate ALL inflammatory foods, not even rice is ok.

    You absolutely can avoid this road.
    White rice is fine for the majority of people.Don't compare eating some rice or a potentially inflammatory food to chain smoking, that's just stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by @lex View Post
    White rice is fine for the majority of people.Don't compare eating some rice or a potentially inflammatory food to chain smoking, that's just stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by @lex View Post
    White rice is fine for the majority of people.Don't compare eating some rice or a potentially inflammatory food to chain smoking, that's just stupid.
    I never compared white rice to chain smoking I compared sugar, grains etc to chain smoking. When you look at the long term diseases they cause including heart attacks, they are very much on a par. White rice contains traces of arsenic, it is not healthy for anyone, it also spikes your blood sugar levels.

    I am gathering you are one of the people who has not done real research eg pubmed and the likes, into what these foods do to the human body?. Otherwise you wouldn't have made the above comment..
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    Doesn't the majority of food we eat have traces of arsenic? I know white rice possibly has more than fruits and veggies, but its less than the amount in brown rice. I like this quote that summed up an article I just looked at.

    Our food web is a mess, top to bottom. Thatís the price of trying to feed 7 billion people. Adding rice to the list of things I fret about on a daily basis will mainly serve to raise my stress level. And while arsenic is the latest boogeyman to poke its nose out of our pantry, and we donít know nearly enough about it, I am confident about this: Stress causes Americans a lot more disease than arsenic in rice.
    Source: WebSite (WOULD YOU LIKE WHITE RICE, BROWN RICE, OR ARSENIC RICE? | Human. Nature.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raine View Post
    I never compared white rice to chain smoking I compared sugar, grains etc to chain smoking. When you look at the long term diseases they cause including heart attacks, they are very much on a par. White rice contains traces of arsenic, it is not healthy for anyone, it also spikes your blood sugar levels.

    I am gathering you are one of the people who has not done real research eg pubmed and the likes, into what these foods do to the human body?. Otherwise you wouldn't have made the above comment..
    No,you certainly compared rice and grains to chain smoking,which is ridiculous.You even said things like rice are bad and MUST be avoided if you want to be optimally healthy,which is complete and utter bullshit.Do you think there's ANY food out there that doesn't contain some sort of harmful elements? Nothing,absolutely nothing is 100% safe,there's something bad in everything we eat,it's just how things work.You can go find a study that indicates toxic and harmful effects for practically anything,even the air we breath and the water we drink.Stop with the excessive fear mongering,it doesn't help anyone and paints a very negative image overall.The people that get cancer and happen to eat grains and processed sugar are also generally obese,lazy,and suffer from other lifestyle factors that promote such diseases,it isn't all the foods fault and to try to blame such a complicated series of disease on just one factor is stupid.Now,I'm not saying grains area healthy choice,science has showed that they aren't,but they also aren't all the same,and certainly not as bad as excessive alcohol consumption,abusive drug use,and smoking addiction.You can't just focus on the often exaggerated negative aspects without looking at the big picture then accuse someone of not doing research because they didn't come to the same extreme conclusion as you,that's just dumb.If grains have show themselves to be harmful to your health,then by all means eliminate them,but not all grains are detrimental to all people.

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    I don't find white rice inflammatory. It's a godsend. It doesn't spike my blood sugar levels because I am not insulin resistant and I eat white rice with plenty of fat, protein and fibre.
    F 5 ft 3. HW: 196 lbs. Primal SW (May 2011): 182 lbs (42% BF)... W June '12: 160 lbs (29% BF) (UK size 12, US size 8). GW: ~24% BF - have ditched the scales til I fit into a pair of UK size 10 bootcut jeans. Currently aligning towards 'The Perfect Health Diet' having swapped some fat for potatoes.

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