True, but regardless of the complexity of the society, or whether we look at it linearly, or as a rhizome, or as some other model the outcome according to what both Chris Martenson and Charles Mann are saying is - collapse, or reaching a "second inflection point" after which our numbers sharply decrease - unless we make a change.
Originally Posted by Scott F
What I appreciated from the Mann article are the examples where some human groups have made an about face (slavery, women's rights) and it is at least hopeful because of that - or else it acts as a massively false panacea.
Female, age 51, 5' 9"
SW - 183 (Jan 22, 2012), CW - 159, GW - healthy.
Met my 2012 goals by losing 24 pounds.
2013 goals are to get fit and strong!