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    primal/paleo AKA orthorexia...

    Any diet that has people asking questions like "should I tell people that I am allergic to foods that I am not because they are so unhealthy eating them on a rare occasion will seriously hinder my health?" or making statements like "there is nothing I can eat when I go out to a restaurant" is glorified orthorexia.

    Cutting out grains because you want to cut calories to lose or maintain weight is one thing...cutting out grains because you think they will kill you is orthorexia.

    Orthorexia nervosa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    I see where you're coming from, but if it wasn't for paleo I would never have known that grains where causing me issues.
    Every dr. I ever spoke to said I had IBS and all I could do was avoid the trigger foods and take meds.
    Thing was the trigger foods were good foods, like garlic, some veggies, etc and not anything made from grains, so I carried on eating healthy whole grains, bran flakes and other cereals.

    It wasn't until I read about about paleo that I dropped the grains, and what do ya know? Within a few days my IBS was clearing up.
    Will it kill me if I eat a plate of pasta, of course not. But it can have assorted ill affects, none of which I enjoy. So I'll stick with telling people I can't eat grains thanks.

    Question for you, jimhensen, some of your posts (not particularly this one funnily enough) have me wondering, do you follow the primal blueprint or other paleo dietary guidelines?
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    Doubtfull Misabi :/
    I think someone is just bored tbh

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    what about 'oh my gosh i really don't want to eat those foods but how do i let people know i'm not eating them in a way where they won't say COME ON AND EAT IT YOU PANSY'
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    Quote from Steve Bratman who coined the phrase orthorexia nervosa:
    "Orthorexia nervosa, as I originally defined it, indicates an unhealthy obsession with eating healthy food. The term is derived from the Greek “ortho,” which means “right,” or “correct,” and is intended as a parallel with anorexia nervosa.

    I realize this sounds like an oxymoron. How can focusing on healthy food be bad for you? The apparent contradiction has led to a great deal of challenge of the concept.

    But the emphasis is intended to be on “unhealthy obsession.” One can have an unhealthy obsession with something that is otherwise healthy. Think of exercise addition, or workaholism. I never intended the expression to apply to anything other than extreme cases of over-focus, particularly where the person themselves would rather lighten up and stop thinking about it so much.

    Subsequent to the publication of my book Health Food Junkies, I was made aware of a rare, darker form of orthorexia, in which the fixation can lead to death. There are some, now, who use “orthorexia” alone to indicate the milder obsession and “orthorexia nervosa” to refer to the dangerous type. At times (but not at all times) orthorexia it seems to have elements of OCD. It may also have elements of standard anorexia. But it is often not very much like typical OCD or typical anorexia. In any case, I am not an eating disorder specialist, and I do not claim that orthorexia nervosa is or should be a DSM diagnosis. I leave that to others."
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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodorchid View Post
    what about 'oh my gosh i really don't want to eat those foods but how do i let people know i'm not eating them in a way where they won't say COME ON AND EAT IT YOU PANSY'
    ^This. The peer pressure to eat the SAD is intense. Sometimes it's easier to lie than to deal with it. And some of us have to be strict because we know how easily one roll, or slice of cake, or plate of pasta turns into five. I don't think that's obsession... it's just coping with making an unpopular choice.

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    The thing I've noticed about cutting grains is that I do *less* thinking about food. I only think about food when I'm hungry or am planning a meal so I'll have something to eat when I get hungry. Even when I'm making food for others I don't feel compelled to try a bit.

    So very very very different from my breadavore days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sapphire_chan View Post
    The thing I've noticed about cutting grains is that I do *less* thinking about food. I only think about food when I'm hungry or am planning a meal so I'll have something to eat when I get hungry. Even when I'm making food for others I don't feel compelled to try a bit.

    So very very very different from my breadavore days.
    I know the feeling! I spent so much time thinking (almost obsessing at times) about how to head off a blood sugar crash, and when I needed to eat next, and where I could get a snack, etc.... Now I just eat my three meals and don't even think about food most other times. It's very liberating!

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    For me, not eating grain is less about orthorexia and more about not wishing to spend the rest of the night lying on the bathroom floor, getting up intermittently to have diarrhea.

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