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    Thanks for all the great answers! That's very helpful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Don't bother arguing. Just nod your head, say "that's nice" and walk away while you nibble on a piece of bacon....
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    Remember that cults force people to be vegetarians to keep mentally weak. Oftentimes they really aren't in a position to really engage in a true exchange of, and even less, evaluation of information.

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    All you need to really say is omega-3s essential to your body.. and you do not get them from flax seeds sorry.

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    ya, dont waste your time arguing with a vegan. its like arguing about politics or religion

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    I think a lot depends on why a person is a vegan. If it is an animals rights issue, you won't win. Ever. If it is simple health- which I don't think there are a lot of committed vegans who do it simply for health- there is a lot to stand on, but their arguments about health will be a reflection of the SAD. When I was a veg, I would basically tell people who pushed it that I know at least two or three ranching families that raise animals to eat who won't eat McDonalds or grocery store meats. Probably if you told them that you stick to pastured organic meats and don't touch fast food either, you'd be singing kumbaya and sharing veggie recipes.

    I'm a little unfairly biased about Vegans just because so many I have known have been all purpose mean people and I hated being lumped with them. I tend to forget about the earth mama types, but they are not prone to argue.

    And most vegans cheat. My BF and I were vegans in college and I think we each thought the other was more committed. Turns out, he'd go home on weekends and have breyers ice cream and grandmas hashbrown casserole, while I was sneaking in a pizza when he was gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magnolia1973 View Post
    I think a lot depends on why a person is a vegan. If it is an animals rights issue, you won't win. Ever. If it is simple health- which I don't think there are a lot of committed vegans who do it simply for health- there is a lot to stand on, but their arguments about health will be a reflection of the SAD. When I was a veg, I would basically tell people who pushed it that I know at least two or three ranching families that raise animals to eat who won't eat McDonalds or grocery store meats. Probably if you told them that you stick to pastured organic meats and don't touch fast food either, you'd be singing kumbaya and sharing veggie recipes.

    I'm a little unfairly biased about Vegans just because so many I have known have been all purpose mean people and I hated being lumped with them. I tend to forget about the earth mama types, but they are not prone to argue.

    And most vegans cheat. My BF and I were vegans in college and I think we each thought the other was more committed. Turns out, he'd go home on weekends and have breyers ice cream and grandmas hashbrown casserole, while I was sneaking in a pizza when he was gone.
    The animal rights issue is actually the easiest if they are logical- however very few are.

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    The point of animal rights is that we have no right to use them for any purpose, be it food, companionship or working. It's not about "protecting" them from predators. Basically the goal would be for no animal to be confined and to be let out to live the life of a feral animal. And ya know what- you could win that argument if you could prove that man was a natural predator of animals from which they should not be protected. And the raising and processing of animals in an environment in which they are placated is actual man using his mind to be the ultimate predator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magnolia1973 View Post
    The point of animal rights is that we have no right to use them for any purpose, be it food, companionship or working. It's not about "protecting" them from predators. Basically the goal would be for no animal to be confined and to be let out to live the life of a feral animal. And ya know what- you could win that argument if you could prove that man was a natural predator of animals from which they should not be protected. And the raising and processing of animals in an environment in which they are placated is actual man using his mind to be the ultimate predator.
    Or if you can point out that "vegetarian foods" kill many more animals than meat consumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magnolia1973 View Post
    I'm a little unfairly biased about Vegans just because so many I have known have been all purpose mean people and I hated being lumped with them. I tend to forget about the earth mama types, but they are not prone to argue.
    lmaooo, I hated being lumped in with "those" vegans too!! i'd be like "well, I guess i'm a veg*n, but I don't like being in that category..." lol!

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