Iodine Anyone? page 65

[Grizz]

Overthinking things again, but should I skip or cut down my dosage on a day I eat several servings of kelp?

kilian,
What are you taking & what is your dosage?

IMO, If you have not had any detox symptoms, then I see no reason to cut back on your dosage. If you suddenly get detox symptoms then just stop taking your iodine for a few days and do the salt loading. Please let us know what happens.

Our ultimate goal is to get down to the maintenance level of 12mg daily after detoxing ALL the toxins from our body.

Do you know how many mg of iodine is in each serving of kelp? The trouble with kelp is figuring out the iodone content per serving, and what is a serving?

If you are not loaded with toxins, then there will be no reaction at all. Iodine is not a problem by itself. It is the toxins in your body that get kicked out by the iodine that becomes a problem. So for sure go for it.

@Princess,
That was a great tip about iodine zapping a zit ! Many thanks for that & keep us informed of your progress. I LOVE to hear good reports!

Grizz

[Patchthebun]

I've been lurking here for a while.

I'm taking a couple kelp tablets (I know, I should take lugols. I have both, I just haven't done the lugols yet).

So, I have done the patch test. It takes about 7 hours to disappear. But here's the thing: I applied lugols 2% to an abrasion on my arm, and it is taking DAYS for the patch to disappear. And I have mild detox symptoms on just 2 kelp tablets a day. What is up with that?

[Grizz]

I've been lurking here for a while.

I'm taking a couple kelp tablets (I know, I should take lugols. I have both, I just haven't done the lugols yet).

So, I have done the patch test. It takes about 7 hours to disappear. But here's the thing: I applied lugols 2% to an abrasion on my arm, and it is taking DAYS for the patch to disappear. And I have mild detox symptoms on just 2 kelp tablets a day. What is up with that?

Detox symptoms on just 2 kelp tablets = you are LOADED with toxins, just like most of us. Every cell in our bodies is supposed to contain iodine, but instead every cell has had the iodine kicked out by toxins such as chemical halogens (class of chemicals to which iodine belongs) = fluoride, bromine, bromides, and chlorine. Also "Pseudo-iodides" such as perchlorate, nitrate and thiocyanate cyanate, & pertechnate. All contaminate cell receptors intended for iodine and kick iodine out of our body. Every cell in our body requires iodine.

This is confirmed by your skin patch test disappearing in 7 hours. Iodine cannot be soaked up through your skin abrasion into your system.

It is no wonder we are a SICKLY nation !

Grizz

[Grizz]

Dr Brownstein discusses Toxins:

What are the consequences of excess bromine levels?
The consequences are severe; increased rate of cancer of the breast, thyroid, ovaries, uterus and prostate are due, in part, to bromine toxicity. Also, we are seeing dramatically increased rates of autoimmune illnesses including autoimmune thyroid disorders. My experience has clearly shown, as compared to those without a serious illness, those with a serious illness have markedly elevated bromine levels.

In the study of pets, household cats were found to have high bromine levels. What is the consequence to cats? Unfortunately, cats are now suffering from an epidemic of hyperthyroidism. Hyperthyroidism in cats used to be a rare condition. The researchers found PBDE's in 100% of the cats studied (23 cats). In the cats with hyperthyroidism, their PBDE levels were much higher.

So, what can you do? The main treatment for excess bromine is to avoid bromine exposure. Eat food that does not contain bromine such as organic fruits and vegetables. Avoid bread, pasta and cereal that contain brominated flour. Next, supplement with enough iodine to allow your body to detox from bromine. Finally, supplement with items that help your detoxification system function optimally. Vitamins C and E as well as unrefined salt and selenium can help.

Bromine toxicity is occurring in a large number of patients. Educate yourself about bromine. Then take the proper steps to help your body detoxify from it. Much more information about this process can be found in my book, Iodine: Why You Need It, Why You Can’t Live Without It, 4th Edition.

Perchlorate in Our Drinking Water
A recent article (2.3.11) in the New York Times was titled, “E.P.A. Standards for Drinking Water Single Out a New Group of Toxic Compounds.” The article stated that the Obama administration would impose limits on permissible levels of a new set of toxic chemicals in drinking water, including the first standards for perchlorate. Perchlorate is a dangerous compound, found in rocket fuel and fireworks, which has contaminated water supplies in 26 states.

Perchlorate is a chlorinated compound that can cause problems with iodine uptake into the thyroid gland. In fact, perchlorate can bind to and inactivate the transport mechanism that moves iodine into the thyroid gland. In effect, perchlorate can cause/worsen iodine deficiency. Estimates are that from 5 to 17 million Americans are drinking water contaminated with perchlorate....
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Perchlorate has been found to contaminate nearly all of the winter lettuce supplies in the U.S.—both organic as well as conventional sources. Folks, perchlorate toxicity is a big problem.

I have written and lectured extensively on the iodine deficiency epidemic that is plaguing our country. I believe that iodine deficiency, driven in part from perchlorate contamination of our water supply, is responsible for the epidemic of breast, thyroid, ovarian, uterine and prostate cancer. Furthermore, perchlorate exposure may be driving the large numbers of patients suffering from thyroid and other hormonal problems.

Dr. David Brownstein - Holistic Family Medicine: February 2011

I think this is what we are contaminated with. We also have chemical halogens (class of chemicals to which iodine belongs) = fluoride, bromine, bromides, and chlorine. Also "Pseudo-iodides" such as perchlorate, nitrate and thiocyanate cyanate, & pertechnate. All contaminate cell receptors intended for iodine and kick iodine out of our body. Every cell in our body requires iodine.

Grizz

[Grizz]

Iodine Deficiency Still Occurring, Strikes Women Hard
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Why does hypothyroidism strike women to men at an 8:1 rate? Also, why do all autoimmune disorders attack women at a much higher rate (approximately from 8-10:1) as compared to men? I believe women are more susceptible to these illnesses due to a common nutritional deficit: iodine.

Women have a larger requirement for iodine as compared to men. It is well known that goiter strikes females (v. males) at a much higher rate. In fact, the difference in the gender rate of goiter becomes prominent at puberty. That is, girls begin having signs of goiter at puberty in much larger numbers as compared to boys. Why does this occur? The first sign of puberty in a girl is breast enlargement. The breasts are the second major site of glandular iodine storage next to the thyroid. Iodine is necessary to form the normal architecture and function of the breasts (as well as all the other glandular tissues). If there is iodine deficiency present, the different tissues of the body (e.g., thyroid, breasts, ovaries, etc.) will compete for iodine. The end result is that all of the tissue will have some form of iodine deficiency which can lead to iodine deficiency diseases. Iodine deficiency can lead to thyroid disorders including hypothyroidism, autoimmune thyroid disorders, and thyroid cancer. Furthermore, it can lead to autoimmune disorders as well as breast diseases such as fibrocystic breasts and cancer.

My clinical experience has shown that it is impossible to treat the above conditions without ensuring adequate iodine levels. I believe that inadequate iodine ingestion is responsible for the rapid rise in these illnesses. It is known that iodine levels have fallen over 50% during the last 30 years. As compared to men, women (due to having a larger amount of breast tissue) have a higher iodine requirement and suffer the consequences of iodine deficiency in larger numbers as compared to men.
However, there are other conditions that also exacerbate iodine deficiency. An article (Env. Health Persp. Vol. 115. N. 8. August 2007) pointed out that elevated pesticides in humans have resulted in lowered thyroid hormone levels. The authors of this study found that effects of the pesticides were stronger in women. Pesticides contain chlorine, fluorine, dioxins and other agents that interfere with iodine uptake and storage in the body. Therefore, the larger the exposure to pesticides, the more iodine is inhibited in the body.

So, what can you do? First, ensure adequate iodine supplementation. I believe we will not turn the tide against the rising rate of thyroid disorders and autoimmune disorders without correcting the epidemic rate of iodine deficiency that is currently present.
The rest of Dr. Brownstien:
http://drdavidbrownstein.blogspot.co...1_archive.html

Grizz

[Kilian]

Dr Brownstein discusses Toxins:


I think this is what we are contaminated with. We also have chemical halogens (class of chemicals to which iodine belongs) = fluoride, bromine, bromides, and chlorine. Also "Pseudo-iodides" such as perchlorate, nitrate and thiocyanate cyanate, & pertechnate. All contaminate cell receptors intended for iodine and kick iodine out of our body. Every cell in our body requires iodine.

Grizz

But I can't just stop drinking my tap water...so what the heck do I do? Will aggressive iodine supplementation counteract the perchlorate exposure?

[jo]

But I can't just stop drinking my tap water...so what the heck do I do? Will aggressive iodine supplementation counteract the perchlorate exposure?

To start with switch to mineral water. Although bottled water is not ideal it is better than tap water. I get mine delivered and you can store it in glass containers. Britta carbon filters will remove some of the chlorine, but not all of it (note that they don't remove fluoride). Probably better than nothing. I am considering having a more expensive filter fitted in due course. I have bought a chlorine filter for my shower which was easy to fit. I haven't tested how much it removes, but the water is much softer and my soap is frothing up more which is probably a good sign. Do what you can when you can.

[Gwynn]

It just never ends...my friend said she saw on The Doctors a story where they had slaughtered chickens and were getting them ready for sale. They threw them in a CHLORINE bath where they stayed for an hour or so.

I have yet to buy organic chicken b/c it is sooo expensive, and I rarely find it in the discount bin. Good news, though, I have been finding more and more grass fed beef in the discount bin!

Gwynn

[Kilian]

Ugh I already buy grass-fed meat, organic vegetables, and pastured eggs on a college financial aid funded budget. With a part time job. I don't know if I can afford to start buying bottled water too. This shit never ends

[Grizz]

But I can't just stop drinking my tap water...so what the heck do I do? Will aggressive iodine supplementation counteract the perchlorate exposure?

@Kilian
@Gwyn
@jo
You are right on - IT JUST NEVER ENDS; We are being bombarded with toxic chemicals from everywhere, including our drinking water. Now if that weren't bad enough, the Japan Nuclear disaster is still spreading radioactive iodine around the world... yet another reason to keep our iodine receptors filled with SAFE iodine. This explains why some folks at the Iodine Group are titrating up to 100mg of iodine - to clear ALL of this crapola out of our systems.

I have a very good question placed with the Group on this very subject. I'll share it with you when I get the answer.

Grizz