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    Quote Originally Posted by t2t View Post
    In 1953 Dr Orian Truss discovered the devastating effects of antibiotics in an Alabama (USA) hospital. During a ward round Truss was intrigued by a gaunt, apparently elderly man who was obviously dying. However, he was only in his forties and in hospital for four months. No specialist had been able to make a diagnosis. Out of curiosity Truss asked the patient when he was last completely well.

    The man answered that he was well until six months before when he had cut his finger. He had received antibiotics for this. Shortly afterwards he developed diarrhea and his health deteriorated. Truss had seen before how antibiotics cause diarrhea. It was known that Candida was opportunistic and thrived in debilitated patients, but now Truss wondered if it might not be the other way round, that Candida actually caused the debilitated condition.

    He had read that potassium iodide solution could be used to treat Candida infestation of the blood. So he put the patient on six to eight drops of Lugol's solution four times a day for 3 weeks and soon the patient was again completely well.

    Soon afterwards he had a female patient with a stuffy nose, a throbbing headache, vaginitis and severe depression. To his amazement all her problems immediately cleared with Candida treatment. Sometime later he saw a female patient who had been schizophrenic for six years with hundreds of electroshock treatments and massive drug dosages. He started treating the woman for sinus allergies with a Candida remedy. Soon she had recovered mentally and physically, and remained well.

    From then on he treated his patients against Candida at the slightest indication of its presence. Many of his patients made remarkable recoveries from most unusual conditions, including menstrual problems, hyperactivity, learning disabilities, autism, schizophrenia, multiple sclerosis and auto-immune diseases such as Crohn's disease and lupus erythematosus.

    Every experienced naturopath can relate similar success stories. Also some alternative medical practitioners have realized the curative potential of anti-Candida therapy, as for instance Dr William Crook who wrote several books about the successful treatment of allergies and hyperactive children.

    6 verticle drops, that would be 37.5 mg of Lugol's 5% solution. At 4 times a day that would be about 150 milligrams of iodine a day. 8 drops four times a day would be about 200 mg's a day. t2t

    IS MOST DISEASE CAUSED BY THE MEDICAL SYSTEM
    Thanks for this info, t2t. I actually read this recently when I was researching candida, which I suspect I have. This is one of the things that I'm looking to resolve by taking iodine. At the rate I'm going, it will take me a long time to reach those amounts! Luckily I don't believe my case is nearly as bad as the patients that Truss was treating. I have also been trying to follow an anti-candida diet, which means no sugar of any kind, even from natural sources, along with a few other restrictions. I did it strictly for 3 weeks and saw some improvements. Hopefully the combination of the diet and the iodine over time will get me cleared up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Paleo Girl View Post
    Based on my own personal experience, I would never jump up that high. I think it really depends on each person's level of toxicity, etc. As for starting small prolonging the pain - starting small is the only thing that has saved me from the pain of detox symptoms! Since I have been going low and slow, I have been feeling GREAT! It's only when I have jumped up too high that I've experienced negative reactions - brain fog, depression, anxiety, feelings of hopelessness, bloating, broderma, the stink of bromines being released!
    HOWEVER, for those who are very sick, getting into the high doses very quickly may be necessary, and worth dealing with the detox symptoms. Luckily, I am not battling any serious illnesses, I just have a few niggling health issues that I'd like to resolve, but I have the luxury of taking my time.
    Thank you for your opinion. In the example I gave, Zophie was suffering severe fibrocystic Breasts AND fibroids so she needed to get to max quickly. Suffering from her health problems likely exceeded any suffering from potential detox. Ditto for the amazing posts in the JDW story.

    For people like this, it is really great to know about Trappers Research. Woops, Cori will complain about the word Research. Better to say Trappers proven & tried Experimentation ;--)) Does this meet with your approval, Cori?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cori93437 View Post
    Personal attacks because I simply pointed out that you misrepresented personal experimentation as "research"?

    I did not say anything negative about Trapper at all... except that he is not a doctor and is just an anonymous person, which is simply an accurate observation, and that encouraging the use of his new way of doing things goes against your own mantra of "Follow the Brownstein protocol" as has been specified many, many times in this thread.

    I'm not being negative at all IMO.
    I'd simply like to see the information that is posted here labeled correctly as what it is, either actual scientific research OR n=1 experiment/anecdote.

    I believe that labeling things correctly will help the people who visit this thread distinguish different the types of information presented based on validity, and help them in their decision making process.
    Appropriate labeling of information as either science based evidence or n=1 anecdote is something that is encouraged in most every discussion on this forum, unless it is noted in the topic that is purely an opinion based subject matter.
    I see that as a positive.
    Let me say it again. Put the Grizz on Ignore.

    I is what I is, take it or leave it and stop nit-picking.
    Kapish?

    I am not going to put up with your constant nit picking. So either YOU go on ignore or you put the Grizz on ignore.

    You need to go to this Science Based Website ASAP. You will NEVER be happy here.
    http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/IodineResearch/
    Or go join with Justaseeker's Iodine Group here:
    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...l#gmessage6724

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Paleo Girl View Post
    Thanks for this info, t2t. I actually read this recently when I was researching candida, which I suspect I have. This is one of the things that I'm looking to resolve by taking iodine. At the rate I'm going, it will take me a long time to reach those amounts! Luckily I don't believe my case is nearly as bad as the patients that Truss was treating. I have also been trying to follow an anti-candida diet, which means no sugar of any kind, even from natural sources, along with a few other restrictions. I did it strictly for 3 weeks and saw some improvements. Hopefully the combination of the diet and the iodine over time will get me cleared up!
    HappyPaleoGirl,
    That file from T2T is so amazing that I have been reading it all afternoon.
    IS MOST DISEASE CAUSED BY THE MEDICAL SYSTEM

    I'm also sending it out to everyone on my Email List.
    THANK YOU SO MUCH, T2T
    You are my HERO !

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuhPrincess View Post
    I'm on board with the legal disclaimer you posted, Grizz. I think you've given enough warnings throughout this thread so that any newbie should be well aware that they are on their own using Iodine. And I say you are officially "off the hook" so you can relax now. You've done all you can to educate and warn the readers here.

    You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him walk on it.

    I went to my chiropractor yesterday and asked him what he thought about Iodine. First thing he said was that he has to warn people that too much iodine can be toxic. Now this is a chiro whom I generally trust. He is the first one who directed me to Dr Mercola's site. Of course, Mercola isn't big on iodine either. Until Mercola sells Iodine, he won't be big on it either. So I didn't bother telling him how much Iodoral I use. No point.

    My chiro is amazed at how much I've changed/improved in the last 5 years including losing 100 lbs. He was even impressed at my neck xray (which I reluctantly agreed to since it had been many years since my last xray following 2 bad neck injuries) which showed no degeneration issues or bone spurs at all even though I'm 51. He showed me a recent xray of a 10 year old patient with more serious issues than I have. I do need to work on my upper cervical curve a bit but otherwise he was thrilled with my overall state of health.

    So when it comes to doctors, many of us have found this thread because doctors have failed us--whether intentionally or out of ignorance--it doesn't matter. I suffered needlessly from hypothyroidism for YEARS because most doctors (including endocrinologists) are clueless about how to properly diagnose it.

    So I am very interested in the info you posted yesterday about thyroid meds preventing iodine from getting into our cells. I am taking T3 only--25 mcg's twice a day. I have tried reducing my dose since starting Iodoral but I could tell I was dragging without it so I resumed taking it. I'm going to try reducing my dose to 25 mcg's once per day to see if anything has changed now that I've been at the higher doses of Iodoral for a few months now. I'm still at 100 mg's per day of Iodoral plus all the companion supplements. I put Real Salt in fresh lemonade each day and I tolerate it well taking it that way. Otherwise, even salt in a capsule will make me gag once it hits my stomach. I've had only a few detox symptoms since starting Iodoral and they were more strange than painful. Old injuries flared briefly such as my neck started to hurt again for a day. It felt like I just gotten a whiplash injury again even though I didn't. Then it stopped hurting just as quickly as it started. My feeling is that as the iodine reaches areas that have been previously injured and inflamed, it detoxes the halides that accumulated in those cells when they were swollen following the injury. But that's just a feeling--not a scientific study.
    Princess,

    Can you point the way to the info posted regarding thyroid meds preventing iodine from getting into our cells? I looked and couldn't find it.

    Thanks,
    Gwynn

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    Quote Originally Posted by cori93437 View Post
    Personal attacks because I simply pointed out that you misrepresented personal experimentation as "research"?

    I did not say anything negative about Trapper at all... except that he is not a doctor and is just an anonymous person, which is simply an accurate observation, and that encouraging the use of his new way of doing things goes against your own mantra of "Follow the Brownstein protocol" as has been specified many, many times in this thread.

    I'm not being negative at all IMO.
    I'd simply like to see the information that is posted here labeled correctly as what it is, either actual scientific research OR n=1 experiment/anecdote.

    I believe that labeling things correctly will help the people who visit this thread distinguish different the types of information presented based on validity, and help them in their decision making process.
    Appropriate labeling of information as either science based evidence or n=1 anecdote is something that is encouraged in most every discussion on this forum, unless it is noted in the topic that is purely an opinion based subject matter.
    I see that as a positive.
    Totally right. Your posts are so necessary. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by breadsauce View Post
    Totally right. Your posts are so necessary. Thank you.
    believe that labeling things correctly will help the people who visit this thread distinguish different the types of information presented based on validity, and help them in their decision making process.
    Appropriate labeling of information as either science based evidence or n=1 anecdote is something that is encouraged in most every discussion on this forum, unless it is noted in the topic that is purely an opinion based subject matter.
    I see that as a positive.
    You ladies just worry about labelling YOUR OWN messages correctly.

    Do not even think of nit picking other members messages.

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    [QUOTE=t2t;904015]@Radialhead,

    @Breadsauce

    Thank you for pointing out that I misspelled the V word in the Dr Truss post. I posted why, in the why box.

    @Paleogirl Thank you for pointing out, that Breadsauce pointed out my misspelled word. You are quite Astute! As to Doctors, my heart doctors worked hard to kill me. On my own I have searched relentlessly to find a way to clean out my arteries. I have 3 stents. IODINE, SELENOMETHIONINE, D3, K2- MK4, and MAGNESIUM have been life changing for me. I have taken iodine for almost 5 years and I just NOW am taking more cofactors. I am not telling anyone too, not see Doctors. Endquote:

    T2t, I am really pleased that simple nutrition has been so good to and for you. But even I, a medic skeptic, feel it is unfair to blame doctors for the lifestyle/genetics that landed you in their care and caused you to need 3 stents. Would you have lived long enough to let nutrition heal you w/o those stents? I am somewhat in that same boat now, except that my docs aren't offering stents for my "diffuse artery clogs." Like you, I am reading and applying as much nutritional info as possible to somehow clear those clogs, of which iodine is only part of the picture, and hope I clear enough to avoid the Big One (fatal heart attack.) If not, I can't blame my docs since I refused statins, and assorted heart meds, and lately, b/p meds. Not being totally suicidal (by their lights), I take a panopoly of supplements and am adding still more. And staying off the worst CW foods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnegans Wake View Post
    Yes. Obviously.
    Hahahahah! What a comedian. I will go to a doctor for 1.diagnosis. 2. Helpful information. I go to the Internet for the same. When the two are greatly at odds in their treatment protocol, then my B.S, sniffer comes into play. Which treatment or treatments has the potential for greatest harm? Which one will fix the problem either permanently, or control it enough for other means to finish it off? Which promoter uses science instead of a pillpusher salesman as a basis for recommendations?
    At the end of it all, I may choose the doctor. But I won't sue him for adverse results - as I've told him, he's the navigator and can warn me of shoals ahead, but I am the captain, and I make the decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Paleo Girl View Post
    Based on my own personal experience, I would never jump up that high. I think it really depends on each person's level of toxicity, etc. As for starting small prolonging the pain - starting small is the only thing that has saved me from the pain of detox symptoms! Since I have been going low and slow, I have been feeling GREAT! It's only when I have jumped up too high that I've experienced negative reactions - brain fog, depression, anxiety, feelings of hopelessness, bloating, broderma, the stink of bromines being released!
    HOWEVER, for those who are very sick, getting into the high doses very quickly may be necessary, and worth dealing with the detox symptoms. Luckily, I am not battling any serious illnesses, I just have a few niggling health issues that I'd like to resolve, but I have the luxury of taking my time.
    And for those with serious issues, too much detox too fast can tip them into heart failure, damaged kidneys and toxic liver. I started small and have worked my way up to 8 drops 2% Lugol's per day, and have been fighting intestinal and heart symptoms in a mild way. Even mild is all I can handle, having me sit up most nights with nitro handy. And I've been at this 8+ weeks.

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