that goes without saying
that goes without saying
yeah you are
Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
I don't believe for a minute that any human gov't really cares about all its citizens so it's not a real stretch for me to consider that Chemtails may have been used to do harm to people in select areas. Or maybe they are just nothing. At least I'm keeping an open mind until more info comes to light one way or the other. I believe Grizz has showed considerable restraint in the last few days since the bullying started.
So for all of you who don't believe in using iodine, ask yourself why you are still here. Bored? Need a life? No friends? Please stop ruining this thread for the rest of us who are interested in current iodine information.
Saying that the material that someone posts is ridiculous, because it is indeed not based in fact at all, is not name calling. This is an open public forum. And as such we have as much right to post information that is contradictory to the information that is posted by others.
As far as Grizz showing restraint... once again, this is a public forum. He does not own this thread in any way, therefore he has no reason to have any say in who posts, or does not post, in it. It's not even a 'private journal' where one might actually view some sort of vague ownership, it's in a completely public "Nutrition" area. If he posts things that are completely incorrect and there is science to show that it is incorrect then other people have a right to point that out... as much as we feel is necessary. Just like happens in every other thread in this "Nutrition" section of the forum. And, just like Grizz seems to feel free to go into all the other threads on this forum and tell people that they need to "TAKE IODINE NOW" and add his two cents that way. No one hits the report button for him doing that mess.
And, BTW... where was Grizz's restraint when he was laughing at someone and wishing them physical harm for not following the EXACT iodine protocol that he espouses? Not one of those you are calling a bully I might add... a person who is also taking Iodine and simply posted a statement about their own experience.
This was spurned by a previous poster having flushing after adding the co-factors. And instead of explaining that, yes... B vitamins in high doses such as the co-factors can cause flushing, particularly B3... which is very well known to produce severe flushing in some people. See, simple explanation... instead Grizz simple said follow the Brownstein instructions, and hints that there is no other reason for the problem except that the person (Dirlot) is doing it wrong.
No, sorry... Dirlot was not doing anything wrong. He was having a side effect from taking the vitamin B3 that is in the ATP cofactors. Just look up B3, it's a very common problem.
As I said earlier... if a place to put this information where outside opinions, dissenting voices, or contradictory evidence can be silenced according to his whims is what Grizz wants, perhaps a Blog would better serve his interests. That way he can just delete any posts he doesn't like.
Also...There is no such thing as a "Chemtrail"... those things are called Contrails. A "Chemtrail" is purely a conspiracy... that has been debunked thoroughly many times over by actual scientists. As opposed to the 'average joe' people standing on the ground looking at the sky imagining bad things perpetrated 'evil' gub'ment entities who believe in "Chemtrails".
Last edited by cori93437; 07-17-2012 at 12:35 AM.
“You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.
By the way, I'm a him, not a her!
And my iodine patch test lasts usually over 12 hours, taking just 1 drop of Lugol's in water 2 or 3 times a week. So if that test has any validity, I feel happy with that!
Last edited by breadsauce; 07-17-2012 at 01:39 AM. Reason: punctuation!
All I've done in this thread is try to point out to Grizz that he's in danger of losing all credibility. I believe he's now done that, & readers need to do their own research to confirm anything he says rather than assuming he's done all the hard work.
We have been invaded by a Pack of Trolls. These trolls never come into this thread unless they are intent on making BIG TROUBLE.
Cori, Radielhead, Paleobird & Bloodorchid
Too bad, we will just have to IGNORE them. The only way to get rid of TROLLS is to ignore them.
Don't Feed the TROLLS
TROLL AT WORK
Last edited by Grizz; 07-17-2012 at 05:12 AM.
Wow... just wow.
First off Grizz, thank you for your research regarding Iodine. I am thinking that you are right on with many of the benefits of Iodine supplementation, and I applaud your zeal in trying to get the information out there. It is obvious that you are genuinely concerned about people and want to get the information out to as many as possible.
Second off Grizz, it appears to me that you do not listen to anyone but take your own council regarding your communications with others. You do come off as a bully at times, rude at other times. I am afraid that, at this point, you are alienating most of the people whom you might help (I am talking about curious people simply checking out this thread.) Although based on your recent postings I doubt you will pause to consider this, I am humbly asking that you do pause to consider your tone and manner and how it is affecting your credibility. Why not let Iodine have center stage instead of your ego?
Third off Grizz, I suggest that you stop submitting troll reports, especially against well respected members of this community (Paleobird.) I can imagine a point where someone over-reporting trolling behavior will himself be censored by the moderators.
Finally, I write these things out of respect for you and appreciation for your desire to help people learn about Iodine and its many benefits. You should consider walking away from this discussion for a week to think about how you are coming across to others, and especially those you are trying to reach.
I hope you consider what I have said.