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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleobird View Post
    Grizz, sweetie, I've been eating seafood and sea veggies as a part of my normal diet all my life. Long before Dr K took up quilting.
    I am just eating a heathy diet, not doing anyone's "protocol".

    And Cori, I have to agree with Grizz on one point, you are wasting your time arguing with him because arguing with ill informed lunatics is pretty pointless.
    +1 for Sea food and sea veg... real food is where it's at.

    True... but the stuff he comes up with is seriously entertaining sometimes.
    I was laughing my butt of earlier at his 1952 Time Magazine reference.
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    As long as you don't think too much about what these kooks are espousing, and prescribing for others based on "facts".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleobird View Post
    Grizz, sweetie, I've been eating seafood and sea veggies as a part of my normal diet all my life. Long before Dr K took up quilting.
    I am just eating a heathy diet, not doing anyone's "protocol".

    And Cori, I have to agree with Grizz on one point, you are wasting your time arguing with him because arguing with ill informed lunatics is pretty pointless.
    Paleobird,
    Aren't you worried about seafood contamination? Things like radiation from Japan, mercury in fish, arsenic in seaweed? What is your opinion on this subject?
    Common Questions About Contaminants in Fish - Seafood Selector - Environmental Defense Fund

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    Quote Originally Posted by cori93437 View Post
    +1 for Sea food and sea veg... real food is where it's at.

    True... but the stuff he comes up with is seriously entertaining sometimes.
    I was laughing my butt of earlier at his 1952 Time Magazine reference.
    And I view my own entertainment as important... stopping in here is entertaining at time.
    As long as you don't think too much about what these kooks are espousing, and prescribing for others based on "facts".
    Yes it can be entertaining. That 1952 magazine reference was indeed hilarious.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grizz View Post
    Paleobird,
    Aren't you worried about seafood contamination? Things like radiation from Japan, mercury in fish, arsenic in seaweed? What is your opinion on this subject?
    Common Questions About Contaminants in Fish - Seafood Selector - Environmental Defense Fund
    Grizz, no, I have not been living under a rock for the past decade. I am well aware of which seafood products are safe to eat. Lucky for me, all my favorites happen to be on the safe list contained in your link. So, no, I am not worried at all.

    As for the radiation from Japan thing, well I could confuse you with some more facts about how big the pacific ocean is and how my sushi is NOT glowing in the dark but, you apparently already have your mind made up so I won't bother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleobird View Post
    Hello, fellow sensible person.
    There is hope for sensible and fairly healthy people from Dr. Brownstein:"Having an iodine loading test performed can help guide you in the proper dosing of iodine. My experience has shown that most adults will do well taking iodine in the range of 25-50 mg/day. Children need lower doses and can be dosed appropriately based on their size. My experience has shown that a healthy individual taking 50 mg of iodine/day will achieve iodine sufficiency in approximately 6 months. "

    So taking the dose of 23-50 mg iodine daily probably will not distort our body chemistry to any great extent, and will have cumulative benefits as we follow the protocol. What's that? 4 drops per day of 5% Lugol's? Sounds eminently doable to me. I can still remember my dad painting tincture of iodine on his gums every morning. He lived to 92.

    But I would have to consider my actions if I ever developed internal cancer or other serious diseases of an infectious nature, and decide whether I could handle an increased iodine amount with its potential for severe detox symptoms on top of the original ailment.

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    3 of my great grandmothers lived to be about 100.
    1 healthfully and independently in her own home until her death at 99 (a few months shy of 100).
    1 healthfully for about 95 yeas and then with simple assisted living care until just short of 101.
    And 1 healthfully until about 90-92, when she then needed in home assistive care around the clock.

    None of these ladies took iodine supplements. Simply AMAZING!
    All were born around 1900, and grew to adulthood before salt began to be iodized in the US (in the mid 20's).
    They all lived outside the Great Lakes and Pacific Northwest regions that are iodine poor, and the reason that iodine started to be added to salt in America in the first place. Does all of your food come from the Great Lakes or PNW region?
    *shrug*
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    Quote Originally Posted by hebsie View Post


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    Ohhh, Bloodorchid...
    I think we could make it 'official' even.
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    At first of all, I would like to take this from time to time to iodine. On the basis of a number of Asian culture, I think it is extremely unlikely, I can put my body, from the drop too much, but I can do some good. I see it, because I try to limit salt (and hwen I have which makes it a natural source, which may be low-iodine).

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    Excellent Report,
    We might debate about the optimum dosage but we should find quick agreement that iodine is absolutely necessary for a healthy thyroid as well as healthy ovaries, breasts and prostate. Beside the greater risk for breast cancer in iodine deficient women, there is convincing evidence that iodine deficiency increases also the risk of thyroid cancer. These are just a few of the reasons to become interested in iodine. In an age of increasing toxic exposures we all need more not less iodine because it has very specific protective effects against several common poisons like fluoride, bromide, and to a lesser extent it helps eliminate lead and mercury from the body. Dr. Sebastiano Venturi, in Evolution of Dietary Antioxidants: Role of Iodine, makes it clear that iodine is a crucial antioxidant and apoptosis-inductor with anti-tumoral and anti-atherosclerotic activity. When we supplement with iodine we will see increased antioxidant activity[i] and immune system function.[ii]

    Iodine, Cancer and Fibrocystic Disease

    Several studies have demonstrated a relationship between low iodine intake and fibrocystic disease of the breast (FDB), both in women and laboratory animals.[iii]

    Dr. David Derry said, "Lugol's solution is an iodine-in-water solution used by the medical profession for 200 years. One drop (6.5 mg per drop) of Lugol's daily in water, orange juice or milk will gradually eliminate the first phase of the cancer development namely fibrocystic disease of the breast so no new cancers can start. It also will kill abnormal cells floating around in the body at remote sites from the original cancer. Of course this approach appears to work for prostate cancer as prostate cancer is similar to breast cancer in many respects. Indeed, it likely will help with most cancers. Also higher doses of iodine are required for inflammatory breast cancer. As well we know that large doses of intravenous iodine are harmless which makes one wonder what effect this would have on cancer growth."

    Because iodine deficiency results in increased iodine trapping by the thyroid, iodine deficient individuals of all ages are more susceptible to radiation-induced thyroid cancer.

    Iodine plays a crucial role in the body's elimination system by inducing apoptosis, or what is called programmed cell death, and this is vital because this process is essential to growth and development and for destroying cells that represent a threat to the integrity of the organism, like cancer cells and cells infected with viruses.

    Iodine the Antiseptic

    Iodine is by far the best antibiotic, antiviral and antiseptic of all time.
    Dr. David Derry

    The antiseptic properties of iodine are used to sterilize every surface and material in hospitals. Iodine is an excellent microbicide with a broad range of action that includes almost all of the important health-related microorganisms, such as enteric bacteria, enteric viruses, bacterial viruses, fungi and protozoan cysts.[v] The minimum number of iodine molecules required to destroy one bacterium varies with the species. For H. influenzae it was calculated to be 15000 molecules of iodine per cell. When bacteria are treated with iodine, the inorganic phosphate up-take and oxygen consumption by the cells immediately ceases.[vi]

    Though iodine kills all single celled organisms such as these it is not exploited for internal use by modern day physicians to combat internal infections, which of course is a great mistake. Dr. Derry says iodine is effective "for standard pathogens such as Staphylococcus, but also iodine has the broadest range of action, fewest side effects and no development of bacterial resistance." Some doctors have reported that it is excellent for the treatment of mononucleosis.

    Iodine is able to penetrate quickly through the cell walls of microorganisms.

    Iodine is a deadly enemy of single cell microorganisms thus it can be our best friend. Iodine was not available to these life forms at the beginning of evolution and it was not until seaweed concentrated it did it become involved in higher life forms. It is for this reason that the simplest level of life cannot tolerate iodine. Iodine kills single celled organisms by combining with the amino acids tyrosine or histidine when they are exposed to the extracellular environment. All single cells showing tyrosine on their outer cell membranes are killed instantly by a simple chemical reaction with iodine that denatures proteins. Nature and evolution have given us an important mechanism to control pathogenic life forms and we should use it and trust it to protect us in ways that antibiotics can't. As we shall see directly below, so powerful is iodine in a protective sense that it also helps us rid the body, not only of harmful chemicals and heavy metals, but also rids the body of abnormal cells meaning it qualifies as an anticancer agent.

    Elemental iodine is a potent germicide with a wide spectrum of activity and low toxicity to tissues. A solution containing 50 ppm iodine kills bacteria in 1 min and spores in 15 min. It is poorly soluble in water but readily dissolves in ethanol, which enhances its antibacterial activity. Iodine tincture contains 2% iodine and 2.4% sodium iodide (NaI) dissolved in 50% ethanol; it is used as a skin disinfectant. Strong iodine tincture contains 7% iodine and 5% potassium iodide (KI) dissolved in 95% ethanol; it is more potent but also more irritating than tincture of iodine. Iodine solution contains 2% iodine and 2.4% NaI dissolved in aqueous solution; it is used as a nonirritant antiseptic on wounds and abrasions. Strong iodine solution (Lugol's solution) contains 5% iodine and 10% KI in aqueous solution. Iodophores (eg, povidone-iodine) are water-soluble combinations of iodine with detergents, wetting agents that are solubilizers, and other carriers. They slowly release iodine as an antimicrobial agent and are widely used as skin disinfectants, particularly before surgery.

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    Iodine Universal Medicine
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