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    Dear Grizz,

    Yes I have heard the anecdotal argument many times! I tell people to read the book: "Iodine, why you need it, why you can't live without it." by Dr. Brownstein.

    Then I explain to them how much iodine we used to consume here in the USA prior to iodine being replaced by bromide in our bread products!

    Look Paleobird--give Iodine a try! You can start at a very low dosage and work your way up. Surely if you spend anytime at all doing your own research on Iodine, you'll see that it is at least harmless. If you suffer from FBD, try it for a month, slowly raising your daily dosage. By the end of 30 days, you may be joining us with your own success story.

    Yes, I was skeptical in the beginning. But, the results have been nothing short of amazing for both me and my husband.
    But why? I don't need it. I'm doing just fine thankyouverymuch.

    And no, it is not harmless for some people particularly those with Hashimoto's.

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    this thread is horrendously long...but great. i've started with seaweed, which has lead to an unquenchable craving for the stuff. i want to eat nori sheets all day. that's weird.
    this wounded bear is gonna find ALL the answers...health, reveal thyself!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ljbprrfmof View Post
    Ooh, I just heard on the news about a resistant strain of tuberculosis in India. They are concerned with a global outbreak. Then I wondered if iodine is indeed anti-bacterial and anti-viral, and if I am protected. I would hate to get TB if isn't Tobacco and Booze.
    John,
    We have this article on that subject:
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    A great feeling of security for a parent comes from administering a medicinal like iodine. It is what I give my children instead of dangerous antibiotics when they are sick. It is what I use when the first symptoms of flu approach and it does spare one the worst of that misery. After we understand that iodine is an excellent antiviral, antibacterial, anti fungal, mold and yeast agent we begin to glimpse the catastrophic mistake made for substituting pharmaceutical antibiotics for iodine.

    Antibiotics do not kill yeast but they certainly can kill people on occasion.[1] Not only do some antibiotics increase the risk of sudden cardiac death but sometimes they lead to liver compromise and failure. Despite the ever-widening use of antibiotics the National Center for Infectious Disease and the Centers for Disease Control announced that the U.S. death rate from infectious disease increased by more than 50% between 1980 and 1992, making it the third leading cause of death.

    Studies have documented the association between increased rates of antimicrobial use and development of resistant infections thus doctors who prescribe antibiotics irrationally should be rebuked. There is a growing consensus among infectious disease specialists, epidemiologists and control experts from the U.S. and Europe about the dark side of antibiotic use. In the right form iodine is every mother’s cherished medicinal heavyweight because it can save a child where antibiotics, often today, will not.

    According to several studies, obstetricians and gynecologists write 2,645,000 antibiotic prescriptions every week. Internists prescribe 1,416,000 per week. This works out to 211,172,000 prescriptions annually in the United States, just for these two specialties. Pediatricians prescribe over $500 million worth of antibiotics annually just for one condition, ear infections. Yet topical povidone iodine (PVP-I) is as effective as topical ciprofloxacin, with a superior advantage of having no in vitro drug resistance and the added benefit of reduced cost of treatment.[2]

    Many women find after taking antibiotics, they get vaginal yeast infections (because their normal bacterial balance has been lost). Antibiotics bring on fungal and yeast infections thus will eventually be seen as one additional cause of cancer since more and more oncologists are seeing yeast and fungal infections as an integral part of cancer and its cause. With upwards of 40 percent of all cancers thought to be involved with and caused by infections[3] the subject of antibiotics and the need for something safer, more effective and life serving is imperative.

    Every day, new strains of bacteria, fungi, and other
    pathogenic microorganisms are becoming resistant to the
    antibiotics that once dispatched them with extreme prejudice

    Though it kills 90 percent of bacteria on the skin within 90 seconds its use as an antibiotic has been ignored. Iodine exhibits activity against bacteria, molds, yeasts, protozoa, and many viruses; indeed, of all antiseptic preparations suitable for direct use on humans and animals and upon tissues, only iodine is capable of killing all classes of pathogens: gram-positive and gram-negative bacteria, mycobacteria, fungi, yeasts, viruses and protozoa. Most bacteria are killed within 15 to 30 seconds of contact.

    Iodine is by far the best antibiotic,
    antiviral and antiseptic of all time.
    Dr. David Derry

    Dr. Derry says that iodine is effective “for standard pathogens such as Staphylococcus, but also iodine has the broadest range of action, fewest side effects and no development of bacterial resistance.” There is a world of difference between using an antibiotic – anti-life substance – and a antibiotic, antiviral and antifungal substance like iodine, which is life serving because it is a basic and most necessary nutritional substance.

    Iodine kills single celled organisms by combining with the amino acids tyrosine or histidine when they are exposed to the extra-cellular environment. All single cells showing tyrosine on their outer cell membranes are killed instantly by a simple chemical reaction with iodine that denatures proteins. Nature and evolution have given us an important mechanism to control pathogenic life forms and we should use it and trust it to protect us in ways that antibiotics can’t.
    Iodine Dosages and Treatments – IMVA Antibiotics

    Dr. Derry adds this:
    Some of our recent serious skin diseases such a "flesh-eating disease" should respond quickly to topical iodine treatment practiced by Fanny. Or, for another example, iodine put onto a mosquito bite would kill all bacteria and viruses at the site of the bite within 10-30 seconds making it impossible for any virus or bacteria to multiply and get started --such as in West Nile Fever. Naturally, this applies to tic bites (Lyme's disease) as well. For many decades in the 1800s people carried around little bottles of iodine around their necks to use on all occasions. People in mosquito and tic infested areas should think of doing this again. (8) In addition, it has been forgotten vaporized iodine rapidly kills air borne viruses such as polio and SARS viruses.. Used extensively in the forties and fifties it may be of use to explore this approach again.

    There has been no significant clinical research on iodine therapy or use for 40 years. (11-15) I feel it is important for research to be directed at this potentially significant area of medical treatment. It is worth noting the greatest part of significant research with iodine was done before the Medline search facilities were available. Of course, since large doses of iodine are tolerated intravenously without side effects, it has yet to be explored what help this may have for many cancer patients or even other diseases.

    I hope these concepts help.
    Dr. David Derry Answers Reader Questions -- Disappearing Iodine Test

    What do you think? Are we safe? If not, I'll drown my tears in BOOZE ;--))
    Grizz

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogashmoga View Post
    this thread is horrendously long...but great. i've started with seaweed, which has lead to an unquenchable craving for the stuff. i want to eat nori sheets all day. that's weird.
    That happened to me, when I ordered Nori Sheets, I gobbled down 6 cartons non stop. My body was craving iodine - this was when I painted Lugols on my wrist & the stain disappeared in only 3 minutes! Back in Jan & Feb.

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    Due to the detoxing that happens upon starting this regiment, should one avoid doing so while breastfeeding? Are there any beginning steps one can do while getting ready to start iodine with harmful effects on the child that is breastfeeding?

    I think I want to start this, but don't want my 2yo DS to get toxic elements through breastmilk. Yes, he's getting plenty of other nutrition through whole foods, but I don't want to make him sick while trying to make myself feel better.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleobird View Post
    But why? I don't need it. I'm doing just fine thankyouverymuch.

    And no, it is not harmless for some people particularly those with Hashimoto's.
    There are doctors, for example Dr. Brownstein, who treat Hashimoto's with iodine, as they feel that this autoimmune disease is caused by an iodine deficiency. However, if you do not suffer from FBD, and you obtain adequate amounts of iodine from dietary sources--then I would agree with you. I have suffered tremendously from FBD, which has gone into remission since I have been supplementing with Iodoral. I do not feel comfortable obtaining my iodine from kelp or other seaweed, due to my opinion that contamination is rampant. I also feel that I do not consume enough fish to adequately meet my iodine needs. So for me--Iodoral has been a wonderful, wonderful find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teach2183 View Post
    Due to the detoxing that happens upon starting this regiment, should one avoid doing so while breastfeeding? Are there any beginning steps one can do while getting ready to start iodine with harmful effects on the child that is breastfeeding?

    I think I want to start this, but don't want my 2yo DS to get toxic elements through breastmilk. Yes, he's getting plenty of other nutrition through whole foods, but I don't want to make him sick while trying to make myself feel better.

    Thanks!
    Yes, your concern is valid. Are you taking any iodine supplements now? If you are, do not increase dosage because increasing dosage is very likely to detox Halogen Chemicals into your milk. Hold your dosage the same until you have finished breast feeding. If you are not supplementing iodine at all, now is not a good time to start for the same reason. In this case, your toddler can be given his iodine supplements directly in his food or juice.

    Dr. Buist from the Yahoo Iodine Group recommends the following:
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    Children – These are the levels that I gave my children at the various ages. This
    is not meant to be a recommendation but a guideline for what was safe for my
    (Dr. Buist) children and others I have been in contact with. General guidelines
    suggest .08 mg x the weight of the child but is dependent on the health condition.

    i. Up to 3 years – 3 drops of Detoxified Iodine (Iodine Source - Your resource for detoxified iodine.) per
    day or take 1 drop of 5% Lugol’s solution in water and then take of the
    water and give it to the child.his results in 3.125 mg / dose.

    ii. 3yrs to 5 yrs – 6.25 mgs of Iodoral or 1 drop 5% Lugols Solution (6.25
    mg)

    iii. 5 yrs to 9 yrs – 12.5 mgs of Iodoral or 2 drops 5% Lugols Solution (12.5
    mg)

    iv. 9 yrs to 16 yrs – 25 mgs of Iodoral or 4 drops 5% Lugols Solution (25
    mg)

    v. 16 yrs and up – will depend on health issues, weight, etc and cannot be
    given in generalities. Dosages range from 12.5 mgs to 300 mgs.

    Download Dr. Buist's latest "The Guide to Supplementing with Iodine" for much more.
    Iodine | Stepping Stones Living, LLC


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    Last edited by Grizz; 06-20-2012 at 01:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teach2183 View Post
    Due to the detoxing that happens upon starting this regiment, should one avoid doing so while breastfeeding? Are there any beginning steps one can do while getting ready to start iodine with harmful effects on the child that is breastfeeding?

    I think I want to start this, but don't want my 2yo DS to get toxic elements through breastmilk. Yes, he's getting plenty of other nutrition through whole foods, but I don't want to make him sick while trying to make myself feel better.

    Thanks!
    I would wait. Or start with a very very small amount and if you notice anything that looks like detox, stop. If you're like the rest of us you've been deficient for years, so waiting another year or two is small in the long run. If you detox at all you will release toxins into your milk. For now you could add safe seaweed and seafood to your diet to at least get some iodine but not enough to trigger detox, and wait to supplement until after you've weaned him completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danielle5690 View Post
    I would wait. Or start with a very very small amount and if you notice anything that looks like detox, stop. If you're like the rest of us you've been deficient for years, so waiting another year or two is small in the long run. If you detox at all you will release toxins into your milk. For now you could add safe seaweed and seafood to your diet to at least get some iodine but not enough to trigger detox, and wait to supplement until after you've weaned him completely.
    Danielle,
    FYI, We have found nasty detox symptoms from very small amounts of iodine, as small as 1 mg from Seaweed Capsules. Not everyone is so toxic, but it is a concern to a breast feeding mother. IMO, not even seaweed is safe from detox symptoms if a person is loaded with Halide Toxins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizz View Post
    Can you tell us more about your hyperthyroid problem? Are you on any medications? Have you seen a doctor yet?
    Grizz
    I was asking for my wife. We were talking about iodine, and she stated, if anything she is hyper, not hypo...she had bloodwork done about 10 years ago, and the homeopath said she was normal, but closer to hyper at that point.

    We dont ever go see MD's. We use modern medicine only for emergency intervention, so no she has not been checked.

    She is a normal healthy woman, but was just concerned that she shouldnt take iodine because it could push her towards being hyper...I didnt have a response to that as I dont know much about it.

    Thanks for your time, and for your help.
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