Iodine Anyone? page 294

[ljbprrfmof]

I used to say "I'm sorry" once month for years. Now it seems like twice a week...

Not every day, like me?

LJ

[Grizz]

T2T,

You are Da MAN ! You showed up just in the niche of time to rescue me from a TOUGH question by Jaye ! What do I know about female temp swings with cycles ? DUH !

You came through with an impressive answer!

Grizz

[t2t]

@Grizz, I don’t think I quite gave the answer, that jaye seeks?

@jaye, At first glance I would say during a given point in time during the cycle but the more I researched it, the more I would say the monthly average would be the way to go.

This site really will open your eyes and shut down brain function, regarding the best time to get an exact true reading on a fertile lady.

It has some tidbits of gold for all people too. 5 hours after being asleep seems to be the best time of night to get a true reading but as to several days before the period, or after it seems a crap shoot.

Despite the fact that 158 years passed since Von Fricke`s
study on vaginal temperature this basal body temperature is
still probably the most widely used aid in the
identification of the ovulation day. However, it seems that
there was not much attention paid to the best hour of
temperature recording after the onset of a nocturnal sleep.
Based on recent studies it seems that 5 hours after
nocturnal sleep onset can give a better basal body
temperature recording that will more reflect the ovulatory
effects upon the other factors.

However, until more sleep studies are performed in women in
a controlled manner, it will be difficult if not impossible
to make any conclusive remarks about the appropriate time
for BBT measurement.

BBT, nocturnal sleep and ovulation

[jaye]

@Grizz, I don’t think I quite gave the answer, that jaye seeks?

@jaye, At first glance I would say during a given point in time during the cycle but the more I researched it, the more I would say the monthly average would be the way to go.

This site really will open your eyes and shut down brain function, regarding the best time to get an exact true reading on a fertile lady.

It has some tidbits of gold for all people too. 5 hours after being asleep seems to be the best time of night to get a true reading but as to several days before the period, or after it seems a crap shoot.

Despite the fact that 158 years passed since Von Fricke`s
study on vaginal temperature this basal body temperature is
still probably the most widely used aid in the
identification of the ovulation day. However, it seems that
there was not much attention paid to the best hour of
temperature recording after the onset of a nocturnal sleep.
Based on recent studies it seems that 5 hours after
nocturnal sleep onset can give a better basal body
temperature recording that will more reflect the ovulatory
effects upon the other factors.

However, until more sleep studies are performed in women in
a controlled manner, it will be difficult if not impossible
to make any conclusive remarks about the appropriate time
for BBT measurement.

BBT, nocturnal sleep and ovulation

Yeah. I'm thinking the monthly average makes the most sense, too. Thanks T2T!

[Owl]

@@owl,
@@lizzy,

I would LOVE to hear what excuse your doctors give for directing you not to take iodine, and what they will mumble when you tell them iodine is required for human health. Make them explain themselves.

My doc is also a DO, who specializes in thyroid. He's open to most of what I suggest. But when I first went to him for my thyroid and told him I had just started on iodine, he said that the meds he was putting me on had some iodine in them. He didn't want me adding more to it - he persuaded me to hold off on it. Of course, the meds don't have very much. It sounded like he just wasn't knowledgeable about iodine, like most docs. I don't think he'll be upset with me, I got the feeling that he didn't think it was necessary to take much iodine.


As far as taking temps for women, from STTM:

WHAT ABOUT MENSTRUATING OR OVULATING WOMEN? Your internal body temperature can be very reactive to your female hormonal state, making it lower or higher than normal. So knowing what is going on within is important to evaluating a temperature. Check your temps before days 19 – 22 of your cycle, with day 1 being the day you started your period.

[Owl]

I think my doc is just pretty ignorant on the subject of iodine and it relating to the thyroid. He's a DO and deals a lot with holistic medicine, which is kinda why I went to him in the first place. I thought he might know a bit more then a typical MD general practitioner. When I first told him my symptoms he was sure I was hypothyroid too, but the tests came back normal (normal TSH, free t4 and free t3) and I came back negative with hashimoto's and graves disease. He didn't say I shouldn't take iodine, he kinda left me with the impression that he thinks it'll probably not help me with anything, but he gave me the go ahead to experiment with it. He actually thought lugol's solution was only available via a prescription, and was shocked I could just order it off amazon.

Did he test ReverseT3? That can inhibit T3 from being utilized by your cells. So the T3 labs look great, but it's not doing anything for you. RT3 must be tested at the same time as FT3, and a ratio of the two is calculated.

Also, according to STTM, FT3 should be at the top of the lab range, FT4 should be mid range or higher.
Optimal Lab Values–how to interpret your results | Stop The Thyroid Madness

[Grizz]

All of this talk about female temperature reminds me of the tour we just completed at the Tennessee Amish Farms.

The Amish live life as people did 150 yrs ago. No birth control and with large families. We visited several farms with > 12 children. Midwives deliver the babies. Women there are either nursing or pregnant, or both nursing AND pregnant.

They still use the 1 room school houses, where young girls teach grades 1 through 8. After grade 8 it is off to the field to WORK. Between graduation & marriage, young ladies teach school. They cook on wood stoves, no TV, no computers, no telephones, no electricity. There is 1 shared telephone in each square mile of land. Washing machines? Old fashioned wringer washers powered by a diesel engine with driveshaft & pulleys.

Very interesting how they power their saws & drills for woodworkig. They are allowed to use diesel or gasoline engines to power belts & pulleys to spin the drills & saw blades. They are not allowed to use gasoline powered generators to create electricity to power anything.

Grizz

[jaye]

As far as taking temps for women, from STTM:

WHAT ABOUT MENSTRUATING OR OVULATING WOMEN? Your internal body temperature can be very reactive to your female hormonal state, making it lower or higher than normal. So knowing what is going on within is important to evaluating a temperature. Check your temps before days 19 – 22 of your cycle, with day 1 being the day you started your period.

Thanks for that!

[lizzychan5]

Did he test ReverseT3? That can inhibit T3 from being utilized by your cells. So the T3 labs look great, but it's not doing anything for you. RT3 must be tested at the same time as FT3, and a ratio of the two is calculated.

Also, according to STTM, FT3 should be at the top of the lab range, FT4 should be mid range or higher.
Optimal Lab Values–how to interpret your results | Stop The Thyroid Madness

I was kinda pissed my reverse t3 was not examined, I'm going to my doc next week so I can ask him about it. What you say about ft3 and ft4 scares me. I have my labs right here, my free t3 was only 2.4 (ideal range is 2.3-4.2), so I'm literally only 0.2 points away from being below normal. My ft4 is about in the middle 1.2 (ideal 0.8-1.8).

[Owl]

I was kinda pissed my reverse t3 was not examined, I'm going to my doc next week so I can ask him about it. What you say about ft3 and ft4 scares me. I have my labs right here, my free t3 was only 2.4 (ideal range is 2.3-4.2), so I'm literally only 0.2 points away from being below normal. My ft4 is about in the middle 1.2 (ideal 0.8-1.8).

Since your FT4 is in the mid range, but FT3 is at the bottom, some of your T3 is probably being converted to RT3. Most doctors don't believe in RT3. You may need to print out some info on it to make your case.
The lab ranges may be "normal" for some people, but they are not optimal. That's what we're after here.