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    @@Paleo Girl,
    Indeed, a thick head of hair was the last thing I expected. I've added a BUNCH of new links in the chapter HAIR in our references guide. You might like them. You are lucky in so many ways to be taking iodine supplements. Your recent depression is a symptom of too much detox and you have that now under control. Also you are in luck again because iodine is said to remove mercury & heavy metal toxicity. You can help speed that process along by taking chlorella tablets. Chlorella binds to heavy metals to prevent them from being re-absorbed into the intestines.

    Vyvanse? WOW! WOW! WOW! I just did a google,"Vyvanse Side Effect Hair Loss" and got 728,000 hits ! Guess what else? Over 1 million hits on a google of Vyvanse Class Action Lawsuit. So it looks like you are correct, your hair loss is clearly tied to vivanse. If you want to have fun, look up the side effects of Viagra - HORRIBLE ! I would rather become a Monk than take Viagra.

    Should you have taken any precautions before removing your mercury fillings? I have a bunch of those in my teeth. What do you think I should do? Leave well enough alone or replace them with white composite?


    Thanks for the feedback. I hope that works out well for you and others. I have struggled with that piece before, and I'm happy to finally get it right. I don't want to see anyone getting xx lbs of bloat & a puffed up zit filled face from excessive detox.

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    Once I first connected the depression and mercury detox, I actually did start taking chlorella tablets. And you know what, they turned me into an absolute zombie! I was completely devoid of any energy and had horrible brain fog. I just couldn't keep taking them.
    SMGJ already responded with some great tips about removing your mercury fillings. I wish I had researched it more before having mine out, but I had no idea how much chaos the removal could cause!
    Leaving them in is a decision that I'm wondering if I should have made. However, I recently saw this video: Smoking Teeth = Poison Gas - YouTube, which made me very glad that I'd decided to get mine out, despite what I'm going through now to clean up the aftermath.

    Seems like the depression has not been mitigated by the slower ramping up of iodine. The last 3 days were pretty wretched. Considering it's been up and down like this before ever introducing iodine, I don't think that the 1mg a day of iodine is the culprit. I think I might try going even more slowly though, as it does seem that I'm already experiencing a little bit of bloat (took about 5 days to show up).

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    Quote Originally Posted by breadsauce View Post
    I'm intrigued to read about SSKI being used to clear mucous. But it is different from Lugols? I've had a lot of mucous lately - I think it is oilseed rape pollen which affects my asthma badly each year when it flowers. My 2 drops of 3% Lugols that I take daily may be helping to cough it out but would SSKI be better?
    @@ Breadsauce,
    I finally found out what SSKI really is. It is "Super Saturated Iodide" This means iodide crystals are dissolved in distilled water until they won't dissolve any more. This means the water has absorbed every atom of iodide that is possible to absorb, and you can easily make your own by buying iodide crystals from any chemical company, and dissolving in your distilled water.

    There is controversy about whether it is better than 5% lugols or not. Some are breathing lugols vapors from boiling water and others are misting it into their lungs. I don't know enough about it to make any recommendations, and it looks like you will become our resident expert on this one.

    I am experimenting with 5% lugols to clear my asthma attack by mixing 10 drops into a 3 ounce misting spray. No success yet, but it certainly could work well to decongest your lungs. Let us know.

    This just came in:
    We use a saline solution, put it into a nebulizer, add one drop of iodine, then
    put on the mask and breathe. It always helps my son get better much faster.
    Never mix it with the abuteral, though. My son has asthma and gets sick and
    needs serious treatment two or three times a year. I've found if I give him one
    treatment with saline/iodine, he gets better much quicker.

    There's a fantastic book by Carolyn Dean called The Magnesium Miracle. In this
    book she talks a great deal about asthma being directly related to/caused by
    magnesium deficiency. It's been a while since I read it but she essentially
    says that calcium needs magnesium in order to dissolve. If you are deficient in
    mag (and most of us are if we're not supplementing) then calcium forms hard
    calcifications in your tissues and organs, including lungs, causing asthma.

    If your kid won't take pills, there are liquid forms of mag as well as
    transdermal (spray on). I highly recommend anyone with asthma to up their dose
    of mag and see what happens.
    @@gopintos
    It is not necessary to test for iodine deficiency. It is certain that you are severely deficient if you drink water and eat any processed foods at all. We live in a sea of toxins that strip iodine out of our body to slowly ruin our health. You can do the skin patch test using 2% Lugols from Amazon to verify if you are deficient or not.
    Iodine Replacement Therapy
    I suggest you spend some quality time reading these 2 vital documents:
    http://tinyurl.com/iodine-references
    http://home.comcast.net/~jocy1/junk/...h%20Iodine.pdf



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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Paleo Girl View Post
    Once I first connected the depression and mercury detox, I actually did start taking chlorella tablets. And you know what, they turned me into an absolute zombie! I was completely devoid of any energy and had horrible brain fog. I just couldn't keep taking them.
    SMGJ already responded with some great tips about removing your mercury fillings. I wish I had researched it more before having mine out, but I had no idea how much chaos the removal could cause!
    Leaving them in is a decision that I'm wondering if I should have made. However, I recently saw this video: Smoking Teeth = Poison Gas - YouTube, which made me very glad that I'd decided to get mine out, despite what I'm going through now to clean up the aftermath.

    Seems like the depression has not been mitigated by the slower ramping up of iodine. The last 3 days were pretty wretched. Considering it's been up and down like this before ever introducing iodine, I don't think that the 1mg a day of iodine is the culprit. I think I might try going even more slowly though, as it does seem that I'm already experiencing a little bit of bloat (took about 5 days to show up).
    @@ Paleo Girl,
    We have seen several folks who could not even take 1mg iodine without nasty detox. That is why I recommend everyone start with 300mcg a day with 1 drop diluted in a bottle of water and only start drinking 1 ounce per day(300mcgs of iodine) out of that bottle.
    If that is too much, then try the Pulse Dosing with a 48 hours interval between doses. Thank you for the tips on mercury fillings.

    @@ SMGJ
    Thanks for the info on mercury fillings.

    @@ Tee,
    @@ MichelleThompson,
    Best to your health, welcome to our group.

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    HappyPaleoGirl,

    I just ran into this excellent link that I think will be a great help to you in fighting off your depression:
    Psychiatric, Psychological and Emotional Aspects of Thyroid Disease i.e. it’s not all in your head!

    It’s a common scenario for hypothyroid patients, especially when you are undiagnosed due to your doctor’s over-reliance on a faulty TSH range, or treated with thyroxine T4-only medications: You go to the doctor; you complain about your depression, or your anxiety, or your emotional swings, or your inability to concentrate…and onto your doctor’s favorite anti-depressant, anti-anxiety, lithium, or bi-polar med you go—beginning with the freebies on the shelf from his friendly and suited pharmaceutical rep. Sound familiar??

    But the problem with this scenario is that your depression or anxiety or other mental health problem is not a unique and unrelated illness. It’s most likely due to having a low free T3, the active thyroid hormone, and/or adrenal insufficiency. And this is especially common for patients treated with Synthroid, Levoxyl, Eltoxine, Levothyroxine and other T4-only medications.

    And this problem is not limited to depression. Low thyroid hormones, and the common occurrence of sluggish, poorly functioning adrenals, can play a role in a variety of emotional and behavioral symptoms and disturbances, including anxiety, excessive fear, mood swings like bi-polar, rage, irritability, paranoid schizophrenia, confusion, dementia, obsessive/compulsive disorders, and mental aberrations.

    So if your physician or psychiatrist failed to check your thyroid function with the correct lab tests (free T3 and free T4, plus antibodies), and your adrenal function with a 24 hour adrenal saliva test, and instead prescribed his or her favorite band-aid psychotrophic medication, you are left with medications that can include unneeded fluoride, that can clash with your other meds, that can make your hypothyroid worse, or can leave you with classic side effects…besides the cost.

    Thyroid, Depression and Mental Health | Stop The Thyroid Madness
    I just LOVE this StopTheThyroidMadness Site:
    There is such a wealth of information that is perfect for us:
    Site Map | Stop The Thyroid Madness

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    So further to my nosing around re the Vit.C I found this site which pretty much confirms a lot of my own thinking (including the gov is out to get me.. Just kidding.. maybe...)
    Natural Whole Food Vitamins: Ascorbic Acid Is Not Vitamin C | The Doctor Within
    But im thinking that taking the lower doses of "Real" vit C would be much more usefull than 2,000 iu of the asorbic acid which almost everything Im finding is..
    Including the Natural Vit. C with rosehips that I ordered, arived today.. on the Label
    .. Vic C (from asorbic acid)
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    Quote Originally Posted by gopintos View Post
    Can I just go to the doctor and do some kind of standard test that would check for deficiencies in all areas or do you have to specifically test for this and this and this.
    The iodine test that a doctor would do is more active than a simple blood test. The doctor will have to give you a specific dose of iodine then after a while test your urine to see how much of that dose you excrete. So it would be a special test separate from any others. It's really the most reliable test of determining your deficiency. The skin test is controversial and considered not really accurate.

    I would like to know of those of you who have been taking iodine, have you noticed any specific benefits?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbhikes View Post
    The iodine test that a doctor would do is more active than a simple blood test. The doctor will have to give you a specific dose of iodine then after a while test your urine to see how much of that dose you excrete. So it would be a special test separate from any others. It's really the most reliable test of determining your deficiency. The skin test is controversial and considered not really accurate.

    I would like to know of those of you who have been taking iodine, have you noticed any specific benefits?
    sbhikes,
    You can view our testimonials here. Click on the Table of Contents:
    http://tinyurl.com/iodine-references

    I can add that Iodine cured ALL of my prostate problems,
    See chapter Prostate here: http://tinyurl.com/iodine-references
    and my hair is growing out again.
    See chapter on Hair here: http://tinyurl.com/iodine-references
    It also cured my insomnia, and I am more alert. Mixed with water and a spray bottle, it makes a chemical free under arm deodorant. It cures toenail fungus. In fact here is a list of additional things iodine can do:
    The Miracle Of Iodine And It's Nearly Free - Share The Wealth

    The special test you speak of is this one, and you must also do the bromide & fluoride test or you will get inaccurate results.
    Very expensive, so not everyone can afford to do it and most doctors don't even do it.
    Hakala Research - Home

    The skin patch test is not perfect, but it is good enough for ballpark use. My first skin test in Jan was gone in just 3 minutes. It now lasts about 6 hours, but I have a ways to go before it lasts the full 24 hours. Other members report similar tests.

    For every doctor you find that says the skin test is no good, I can find another doctor that recommends it. As far as I'm concerned it works good enough and that opinion is shared by MANY doctors.


    Just study the many links I have provided such as THIS ONE:
    Jeffrey Dach MD Bio-Identical Hormone Blog: Iodine Treats Breast Cancer, Overwhelming Evidence by Jeffrey Dach MD

    Oh, and this just came in. Yet another Testimonial.
    My husband - who is also a patient of Dr. Brownstein was dx'd with TPO Ab (Hashi's). He started on the full protocol and 37.5 mgs of Iodoral. After 6 mos he made minimal progress although he did have more energy and felt better. After his 6 mos follow up we increased his dose to 50 mgs and by the next 6 mos appointment his antibodies were gone. He is doing very well and continues to take 50 mgs / day. He is not on thyroid hormone either.
    Stephanie Buist, ND HC
    Owner / Iodine Group
    Best to you,
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    Quote Originally Posted by DinoHunter View Post
    So further to my nosing around re the Vit.C I found this site which pretty much confirms a lot of my own thinking (including the gov is out to get me.. Just kidding.. maybe...)
    Natural Whole Food Vitamins: Ascorbic Acid Is Not Vitamin C | The Doctor Within
    But im thinking that taking the lower doses of "Real" vit C would be much more usefull than 2,000 iu of the asorbic acid which almost everything Im finding is..
    Including the Natural Vit. C with rosehips that I ordered, arived today.. on the Label
    .. Vic C (from asorbic acid)
    I found and am using Solgar brand of Ester-C Plus that does not seem to have ascorbic acid in it as far as I can tell. www.com. iherb.com/Solgar-Ester-C-Plus-1000-mg-Vitamin-C-180-Tablets/8813 (no spaces for the link)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuhPrincess View Post
    I found and am using Solgar brand of Ester-C Plus that does not seem to have ascorbic acid in it as far as I can tell. www.com. iherb.com/Solgar-Ester-C-Plus-1000-mg-Vitamin-C-180-Tablets/8813 (no spaces for the link)
    The Internet recently recommended the following:
    ==========================================
    Vit C, Ester C: $18.85 for 90 days at 2000mg/day (minimum requirement)
    Magnesium glycinate: $16.40 for 90 days worth at 400mg/day
    Selenium Methyl-Selenocysteine: $9.00 for 100 days worth at 200mcg/day

    Is there anything wrong with Ester C ?
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    Hi Grizz and others,

    I read the Iodine reference and I really wanna start supplementing in some Iodine.

    I've got super cold hands, feet, and nose when the temperature drops below 15*c... and where I am, winter is on its way!! Plus some other symptoms that could be helped with iodine supps. Some quick questions...

    1. I'm wondering if it is IMPERATIVE to go and get thyroid tests done or see a doctor before starting?

    2. are there any good iodine drops on iherb.com you recommend?

    3. So we only start taking iodide after the 8th week via iodoral? I've got some skin issues so I thought the iodide might help it out.

    Thanks mate!

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