Iodine Anyone? page 115

[justaseeker]

Great quotes. Now back on topic.....

I came across this in my searches:

They are working on a new study apparently: 17 December 2010 Media Release, University of Otago, New Zealand

This news is excellent! So great for people in NZ to care about their children this way and to actually do something about it. I think we need to get access to the actual study. One of the things that I would want to look for is how NZ is defining "iodine deficiency". Based on what you are saying here, they are clearly considering much more than a low level intake barely enough to prevent goiter. What I have in mind is to make a compilation of international standards for iodine intake & "deficiency" - assuming that I can't find one that someone else has already done.

[ljbprrfmof]

Feeling good, no detox issues yet on 1 drop of 2% Lugols in my coffee. I have all the detox vitamins and brazil nuts for the selenium.

Have gone from watery loose bowels early in the past week, to constipation since Wednesday. I am sleeping better and my blood glucose fasting reading is going down, even having pizza for dinner last night. Morning blood pressure is down also. I have been working bake to my prescribed dose .3 mg of clonindine. I was off of it three weeks ago when I was in the hospital and they were controling the sugar with insulin. I find if I take full doses of all my pills after the insulin, I become anemic. So the clonindine is the med that seems to do it to me, so I started cutting those pills in half. After starting the iodine, it does not seem to matter if I am on the full dose. Titrating that med up still brings on the weakness and lethargy of anemia. When ever I try to go three doses per day of 3/4 of a pill, I always seem to need to cut it back to 1/2 x 3. This AM's reading was right where the doc's wanted it, 117/78. I might just stay at 1/2 pill x 3/day.

[justaseeker]

The patch test yesterday lasted 12+ hours. Improving steadily.

I read this link

Iodine - the Fountain of Youth? (Part Two)

and was appalled. So I googled serevent + bromine (an asthma drug I take) and found it contains bromine! So does the ventolin.

So -is it better to stop the asthma drugs and suffer - or to up the iodine to counteract the bromine?!

Really bad news, I thought!

Great news about the steady improvement! I'll read that link asap. Meanwhile, I found a list of commonly prescribed medications that contain bromide and fluoride. It may not be comprehensive and it may be redundant information - I'll check the Bible and our reference file to see if we already have such a list. I don't recall seeing one - just frequent references to the fact that medications are a source of toxins.

Commonly prescribed drugs containing fluoride or bromide at Iodine Supplementation Support by VWT Team (MessageID: 1109781)

I also found an article about reducing our environmental exposure to these toxins.

Reducing your exposure to PBDEs in your home | Environmental Working Group

[Grizz]

The patch test yesterday lasted 12+ hours. Improving steadily.

I read this link

Iodine - the Fountain of Youth? (Part Two)

and was appalled. So I googled serevent + bromine (an asthma drug I take) and found it contains bromine! So does the ventolin.
So -is it better to stop the asthma drugs and suffer - or to up the iodine to counteract the bromine?!
Really bad news, I thought!

@@Breadsauce,
You will be happy to know that iodine has been reported to cure asthma. My own experience is proving this to be true. Prior to starting on iodine, I used to always cough during or after having sex with Mrs Grizz. Not any more ! ! I still need my inhaler after a tough workout on the treadmill, but I am hopeful that those episodes will fade away as my iodine levels slowly get up to normal. I still need my Ventolin.

I suggest keeping up with your iodine program and over time, I'm willing to wager that your need for inhalers will fade away. Don't quit on your inhalers because a bad asthma attack could be deadly. Great news about your skin test lasting 12 hours ! You are halfway there ! Congrats!

PS) I stopped using my daily inhaler years ago. Now I only use flovent on those rare occasions when I need it. I had determined that if I needed flovent for too many days a week, then I would have to take my daily inhaler again. Now as it is, I only need my flovent 3 to 4 times a year after I exercise too strenuously. I know how much I can exercise before reaching that limit. But now my asthma is cured for when it counts the most - when romancing Mrs Grizz ! YAY !

@@griokon,

Up to 6 drops of Lugol's 5% yesterday, and feeling great. No detox symptoms, high energy, general positive outlook, etc.

Great news on your progress !

@@pamsc
Try your natural salt in your morning coffee. I have grown to LOVE it in my coffee!

Best of health to all,
Grizz

[justaseeker]

Just a few thoughts and a little report. In checking the list of commonly prescribed medications containing bromide and fluoride, I discovered both good news and bad news. The good news is that I am not taking any medications on this list. I do have one medication on hand that I don't use often and haven't used since going primal that does contain bromide. I guess you know what's going to happen to that bottle. Don't need it anyway. I also have taken a few others over the years that are on the list. The one that I used the longest was Flonase, prescribed for my perennial allergies. I stopped that one - changed to a similar product - about 15 years ago if memory serves.

Well, so that's why we are detoxing in the first place - we know we are toxic. We want to eliminate as many sources of toxicity as possible - but we also recognize that 100% elimination is not realistic. That's why after the detox we focus on the maintenance/prevention dose for life. If we can stop medications safely or at least see about changing brands to a less toxic version that would be good. But, we may not have these options so we will have to factor that source of toxicity into out final iodine dosage.

[Grizz]

Great news about the steady improvement! I'll read that link asap. Meanwhile, I found a list of commonly prescribed medications that contain bromide and fluoride. It may not be comprehensive and it may be redundant information - I'll check the Bible and our reference file to see if we already have such a list. I don't recall seeing one - just frequent references to the fact that medications are a source of toxins.

Commonly prescribed drugs containing fluoride or bromide at Iodine Supplementation Support by VWT Team (MessageID: 1109781)

I also found an article about reducing our environmental exposure to these toxins.

Reducing your exposure to PBDEs in your home | Environmental Working Group

@@rrustad,

It is easy to miss, but the left side menu here has an extensive list of products with bromide poisoning. The most complete listing I've seen yet:
Symptoms

In addition, the list of bromide poisoning symptoms is the best I've seen yet! A WONDERFUL site for more research.

@@ljb,
If your constipation becomes a problem, just increase your magnesium,

Grizz,
Back in the Prostrate problems thread you mentioned improvements in your prostrate function after you started the iodine. May I ask what dose you were on and how many days it took before you noticed an improvement? I have had noticable problems since my stroke 2 Octobers ago. So I am hopeful.

John

john,
My PM is so overloaded I can't send a message. My prostate has been on a very slow improvement, and it is still on going. I began to notice improved urine flow about a month after starting iodine and I was at 2mg daily on 1/20. Then after titrating up to 12mg iodoral, I noticed even more improvements in urine flow. Now I am up to 50mg ( for the 2nd time ) and my urine flow is really good. I've recently started lasting all night without getting up to urinate, but only 2 times so far. Last week I thought I was cured, but this week I see even further improvements. So who knows... maybe I can piss like a teenager again after a few more months on iodine? This means pissing up to the gutters on the house ;--)) Most unexpected is that my asthma is slowly fading away! The BIGGEST improvement is in my sleep. I am now sleeping like a teenager, vivid dreams and REALLY refreshed when I wake up. I'm also much more alert, the brain fog is GONE ! But now Mrs Grizz is complaining about my snoring + tossing & turning that wakes her up.

Grizz

[justaseeker]

Just a few thoughts and a little report. In checking the list of commonly prescribed medications containing bromide and fluoride, I discovered bot good news and bad news. The good news is that I am not taking any medications on this list. I do have one medication on hand that I don't use often and haven't used since going primal that does contain bromide. I guess you know what's going to happen to that bottle. Don't need it anyway. I also have taken a few others over the years that are on the list. The one that I used the longest was Flonase, prescribed for my perennial allergies. I stopped that one - changed to a similar product - about 15 years ago if memory serves.

Well, so that's why we are detoxing in the first place - we know we are toxic. We want to eliminate as many sources of toxicity as possible - but we also recognize that 100% elimination is not realistic. That's why after the detox we focus on the maintenance/prevention dose for life. If we can stop medications safely or at least see about changing brands to a less toxic version that would be good. But, we may not have that options so we will have to factor that source of toxicity into out final iodine dosage.

[Gwynn]

Update: Up to 6 drops of Lugol's 5% yesterday, and feeling great. No detox symptoms, high energy, general positive outlook, etc.

I am moving up quite quickly, but I plan to back down immediately to my last comfortable level if/when I hit too much of a detox wall. When I get up to 8 drops of Lugol's, I will hold steady for the 6 months Dr. B recommends. I don't really see any reason to push it beyond that. If I was a patient of his, he'd keep me at 50mg (unless I had a specified serious disease) so I see no reason to push it beyond that yet, if ever.

GrokON,

I am up to the 5 drops of 5% myself. I have been going up one drop a week. I have toyed with the idea of jumping up to 8 drops right away, but fear of severe detox symptoms stops me. I have had some unpleasant but not severe symptoms anyway. Tomorrow I will go up to 6 drops, and I like your plan of staying at the 8 drops for six months.

Gwynn

[justaseeker]

@@rrustad,

It is easy to miss, but the left side menu here has an extensive list of products with bromide poisoning. The most complete listing I've seen yet:
Symptoms

Grizz

I checked that side bar and all I saw was lists for fluoride - not bromide. Please look again - and if you can, cross reference with the list that I shared. I'll do the same. I think that the list that I shared might add a few drugs to the list.

[justaseeker]

Feeling good, no detox issues yet on 1 drop of 2% Lugols in my coffee. I have all the detox vitamins and brazil nuts for the selenium.

Have gone from watery loose bowels early in the past week, to constipation since Wednesday. I am sleeping better and my blood glucose fasting reading is going down, even having pizza for dinner last night. Morning blood pressure is down also. I have been working bake to my prescribed dose .3 mg of clonindine. I was off of it three weeks ago when I was in the hospital and they were controling the sugar with insulin. I find if I take full doses of all my pills after the insulin, I become anemic. So the clonindine is the med that seems to do it to me, so I started cutting those pills in half. After starting the iodine, it does not seem to matter if I am on the full dose. Titrating that med up still brings on the weakness and lethargy of anemia. When ever I try to go three doses per day of 3/4 of a pill, I always seem to need to cut it back to 1/2 x 3. This AM's reading was right where the doc's wanted it, 117/78. I might just stay at 1/2 pill x 3/day.

DRAT! I just made a reply to your post and somehow lost it! Anyway, isn't it great how iodine helps with blood sugar? I find that to be true myself.

So, you wouldn't consider the diarrhea and constipation to be detox related? Normally, I am regular with healthy poops. Since starting the iodine, I tend to swing a little between too loose and too firm - and have to adjust diet and hydration accordingly. No problem. I also am having the occasional really smelly poop - and the smell is like chemicals. I take all of these changes to be detox related and to be an indication that my liver is detoxing as well as my kidneys.