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    I was hiking this morning and had a rather primal encounter with a bear. I've seen black bears in the woods and my backyard at least a 100 times in the last ten years and I'm not normally concerned about an encounter with them, but this was different.


    Kiko (my dog) and I were topping out a hill when we see a good sized black bear about 150 feet away. I stop and yell "hello bear" to it. It looks at us for a couple seconds and starts coming right at us at a walk. I yell and throw a stick and it stops. When we start walking away it starts following us. I stop and yell again and it stops. This goes on for a good ten minutes, with multiple stare downs. Twice it was close enough that I could have hit it by throwing a stone at it. Kiko was all excited and I was too. It was getting pretty scary as it was clearly stalking us and gave me a big, heart pounding adrenalin rush. I even thought about the advice to imagine a large carnivore is chasing you when you do sprints. This seemed to qualify.


    I'm thinking about carrying something to scare them with; not sure what. This one was way too aggressive and *not* afraid of people. I'd say he was about 250 pounds or more. Pretty freaky.


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    If you're of substantial build, carry a large knife (Kabar was originally named so because a fur trapper wrote them and noted how good it was when he had to 'kill a bar'). If not, carry a pistol in a substantial caliber/energy at minimum. .357 magnum, .357sig, .40s&w, .44mag, and any of the larger and more ridiculous would work fine. A levergun in one of those pistol calibers (like a Marlin 1895) would work well too, as would any rifle in a hunting caliber or military caliber .30+.


    Note that due to an amendment to the recent credit card reform bill, the concealed carry laws of the state now apply to national parks in that state.


    That said, I did read a story of a woman who encountered a black bear and ran, for about 2 hours, back home while engaging in a running fistfight with the bear. She was scratched up but okay. Of course many people just get killed by them, too.


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    wow bruce, that must have been scary. glad to hear you and kiko were unharmed.


    i think hikers often attach bells to their packs so that bears will hear them coming. i thought usually they want to stay away from humans but it sounds like this guy was kinda agro. maybe an air horn would scare him off? or a fox 40 whistle.


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    I am glad I live in NYC. Could Pepper spray work?.

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    Where do you live? You need to call whatever authorities are responsible for wildlife control in your area and report this- it's highly unusual for a black bear to be so overtly predatory and this bear is clearly becoming a "problem bear".


    That said, Nick's advice is sound. Would be arming up more for a grizzly, but black bears aren't quite as, ah, armored. A bear that's completely unimpressed by shouting and other primate threat behavior probably isn't going to turn a hair over air horns or pepper spray either and if it's close enough for the latter things have gone to ohcrapsville.


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    lmao! pepper spray! are you from Brooklyn?


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    New Mexico. Black bears visit my yard, too, but our bears are circumspect and don't bother anyone. (So far.)


    Believe it or not, I actually have seen a lot of people touting pepper spray as an anti-bear measure. If I just want to piss it off, I'll use a pointy stick...


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    This was in Morris County, New Jersey, at Pyramid Mountain Park.

    http://www.morrisparks.net/aspparks/pyrmtndir.asp


    This is the first time I've ever had a black bear act aggressively..... quite a surprise.

    I'm hoping this behavior isn't a trend. I'm not yet ready to get a gun. It did stop advancing when I stopped and yelled so perhaps a loud whistle, as someone suggested, might help. I like knives so maybe this is a good excuse to get a nice big one. As of now I'm assuming this is unlikely to occur again. It did get me really jazzed! I could always Grok out and make a spear. Hmmm.


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    Now you have a good reference for doing sprints. Glad you're okay.


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    I think a loud whistle will work one like a referee has. I think they make whistles for bears as well. Besides if you're hiking they can be helpful if you get lost.


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