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    The quest to do the ton (100+lbs of fat loss) and stalls

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    Hey all,
    It seems there is quite a few people here who already “did the ton” and I have a few questions/ me thinking and reflecting out loud.

    Thus far I have gone from 340 to 282lbs since last Easter and I am shooting for 230ish so by my calculations that is about half way. I was wondering did everyone else hit a big stall about halfway to their goal, and if they did what did they do about it. It was effortless to this point. FYI most days I intermittent fast in the form of no breakfast.

    I know first and foremost I need to re commit myself and cut back on the little slip here and there and get back from 70/30 to 80/20 or better. I know I need to rededicate myself to working out. Lastly I am also going to start dabbling with carb cycling and see how it goes. Also a little more play could not hurt.

    As it is now I go to the gym and lift on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Now getting there and giving myself a through ass kicking has never been a problem (ex-power lifter). But since going full primal (less than 50g carbs per day to lose the weight) all my lifts have stalled, and I run out of steam quicker (not a surprise) and my Thursday workouts are much less energetic than Tuesday, I am guessing from depleted glycogen stores. So I was going to start with a low fat high protein/carb meal Tuesdays post workout and see how that works for my recovery by Thursday and how my energy levels are. I figure all weekend I am ok low carb because there is enough time for gluconeogenesis to do its thing to get me ready for Tuesday again.

    And one last thing I know I need to do that I have not done enough of… sprinting or jogging or the like once a week.

    Thoughts?

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    Have you looked at morning/noon IGF-1 via 7-keto DHEA?

    Just a thought --

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratio View Post
    Have you looked at morning/noon IGF-1 via 7-keto DHEA?

    Just a thought --
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    You are probably eating too many calories if you aren't losing weight.

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    Oral supplementation with 7-Keto DHEA runs up IGF-1 levels in the body.

    For some folks, this translates into increased metabolic efficiency; particularly with respect to fat stores.

    Some in the BB community swear by it

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimhensen View Post
    You are probably eating too many calories if you aren't losing weight.
    Well I am still loosing... but much slower... it has been a stall for a month... loose a few lbs... stall for a month. I was just hoping for faster progress lol but I dont think I am eatting to much since I am doing the who IFing thing... but it could be

    The other thing is even when "stalled" I can still feel the belt getting looser and have had to tighten it. So I know body recomp is still going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimhensen View Post
    You are probably eating too many calories if you aren't losing weight.
    When did calories trump metabolic efficency?
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    I've heard a lot about carbing up on workout days to help recovery, so that could make a big difference. Make sure to pick appropriate carb sources, such as sweet potatoes or white rice, if you're tolerant.

    How often do you IF/for how long/what do you eat after the fast? Tuning up is all about reviewing EVERYTHING to see what you can improve, so let's not get too focused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quelsen View Post
    When did calories trump metabolic efficency?
    And what is your cure for metabolic slow down? There are a few tactics that I have heard that work well for helping metabolic slow down while dieting. One of which is a carb refeed where you eat large amounts of carbs during a short window while keeping fat to a minimum. This helps increase leptin. Another way is to take a 2 week diet break where you eat at maintenance for two weeks, and make sure that during this 2 weeks you are eating a relatively high amount of carbs (probably 200 grams or more a day). Your weight loss should take off again after that. Those are two tactics that I have heard that work.

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    Not sure how tall or old you are, but I have been at this for almost exactly 1 year. I'm 46/5'11 and started out around 225lbs. I'm now down to 170.
    Here is a list of my monthly losses:
    Dec 10 - 10lbs
    Jan 11 - 11
    Feb - 6
    Mar - 6
    Apr - 5
    May - 0
    Jun - 4
    Jul - 3
    Aug - 3
    Sep - 2
    Oct - 1
    Nov - 1
    Dec - 3

    I'd still like to lose 5-10 more pounds, but realize it may take a long time. A few months ago, I tired of the hacks and worries over losing weight and just focused on eating healthy and exercising. It has made life a lot simpler. I IF most days by skipping breakfast and keep my calories around 2000-2500 per day, but I don't count calories or macros. If I were to guess, I'd say my carbs are around 50g per day. I can pretty much tell now that the only way I will regain the weight is if I start eating junk food again. I do tons of pullups, pushups, situps, and squats. I sprint once a week or less. I walk about 1 hour a day. I haven't been to a gym in 12 years.

    Once those big losses stop and you get into fighting to lose 1 pound a month, it's pretty disheartening. But as long as you don't keep going up, you are doing it right.

    You can spend a lot of time and money at the gym, on food supplements and with a personal trainer and lose lots of weight and get ripped, but is that really sustainable for you? It's not for me. I want to enjoy life, be healthy, fit, and active, and not be starving.

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