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    Quote Originally Posted by jo View Post
    I think they need to look more into the diets if those that don't fail. And perhaps the rate of weight loss. Someone that loses 20-30lbs in a year and allows themself a cheat here and there is more likely to continue the weight loss/maitain then those doing a crash/restrictive diet or even a diet of crap food.

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    I am a brand spanking new member here as of today! My husband and I got our Primal Blueprint book in the mail yesterday and have been reading and highlighting all kinds of things. We have been working out in the gym, but I find I prefer the treadmill over just about anything. How long before you started to see changes after going Primal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by teach2183 View Post
    I think they need to look more into the diets if those that don't fail. And perhaps the rate of weight loss. Someone that loses 20-30lbs in a year and allows themself a cheat here and there is more likely to continue the weight loss/maitain then those doing a crash/restrictive diet or even a diet of crap food.

    The figure is those who failed on this particularly year long study. Other long term data suggests that dieting has a 95% failure rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sihana View Post
    Cold Thermogenesis Guidelines/Results page

    A thread we have going on it. It basically is using cold exposure to provide therapeutic effects, such as increased weight loss, better sleep, better muscle growth. The argument is that humans no longer experience winter or extreme temperatures much anymore, and as such, have been losing out on many of the benefits that the temperatures trigger with gene expression.
    Thanks Sihana. I take it the people making this argument are not Canadian... LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judg View Post
    I have been mulling this over, again, and one thing that resurfaced in my mind is that 2/3 of dieters regained the weight. Which means 1/3 didn't. They should be researching what that 1/3 has in common and how much of it is fully under their control. Now THAT would be useful. And if 1/3 do not regain, then "doomed" is hardly the word I would choose.
    About ten years ago I dropped 70 pounds. I did not gain it (all) back. I lost it through CW methods (eDiets and a 3-day-a-week 30-minute kickboxing DVD). It's probably what triggered the cascade that killed my thyroid, but by god, I lost weight. (I was 220-ish and a US size 18-20 pants, I now hover around 152 and a US size 8-10.)

    I did creep back up to 170 at one point, then I moved away from a bad job and instantly lost 5 pounds. Then I dieted some more, and lost 5 more. Then I went vegan, and gained weight. Then I went paleo, and lost about 15 pounds total.

    I'm now once again hovering between 152-155. I'm trying to find what will allow me to lose weight while remaining paleo. I love the way paleo feels. I just wish it would let me lose those last 25 pounds.

    We're TTC right now, so I'm not worrying about weight loss too much. Or gain, because I'm not gaining anymore. No insidious creep. It doesn't seem to matter if I'm super strict or allowing gray-area things like rice and corn and honey and buckwheat. Doesn't matter if I IF or eat 3 squares. Doesn't matter if I do Crossfit or walk or weight lift. I stay at 152. I'm a healthy 152, but I would rather be a healthy 130.

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    Steph, many congratulations on losing so much weight and keeping it off. This is already a major victory. How long have you been stuck at the same point?

    I don't know if it will be useful to you, or anyone here, but maybe a few words on how I managed to lose my weight despite having chronic fatigue and being unable to significantly increase my activity level (other than becoming more faithful with my walks) will be helpful.

    First I prepared myself for a long time by improving my eating habits. Eat real food - no chemical substitutes - and eat with joy were my two rules. I knew I had to have a baseline of good eating so that I wouldn't pack weight on when I went back to normal. Then when I did start losing (ironically because I was too exhausted to do even the simplest food preparation) I devised a rather simple strategy to beat the "plateau".

    My reasoning was that if our body goes into famine mode after three weeks of a calorie-restricted diet, then I should quite simply stop dieting. I couldn't increase my energy output to ramp up my metabolism, so I would just go back to normal after three weeks. Or semi-normal. For the first couple of weeks my body would fight to return to its normal, my former weight. And I argued with it, using intermittent fasting, the occasional single day of restricted food, until I finally won the argument. Then I would just eat normally for a while, establishing a new baseline weight. Every three months I repeated the cycle: 3 weeks of undereating, 2-3 of monitoring my weight very closely and resisting any attempt by the fat to return, and then back to normal.

    I don't know how well this meshes with primal, but it's how I did it for a couple of years. Then between hormonal change and some life stressors, I just wasn't able to maintain that cycle, so I just have a few days here and there of cutting back, so I have only lost 10 pounds over the last 10 months. But I did lose them and while there has been the inevitable seesawing, it hasn't been significant. I always manage to nudge myself one pound down every month.

    I've only been eating primal for a week now, and it was on the heels of a trip which always makes me put on a little weight, if only from my digestive system slowing down, but I've lost a pound or two over that time, which is nice, even though that isn't my primary goal in eliminating grains. I just want to get healthier. I really badly want to get healthier, so I have cheerfully passed on foods which used to be almost irresistible, in the hopes that I will reap major benefits.

    Anyway, all of that is to say that maybe it might be a good thing to let yourself stall for a while, and then attack the weight sporadically. It's a method that has served me well. Of course, if you've been stalled for quite a long time and none of the attack methods have worked, then this has not been helpful at all...
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    Judg - thats a pretty awesome that you figured all that out and were able to stay the course even through the stalls! Good advice I'd say!

    I lost 15 pounds the first couple months after starting - then nothing. Doesn't matter how I play with things - the weight doesn't move. Hoping the doctor can tell me my thyroid is needing a boost. I think when I get some answers from the doctor I will try following your method. Will see what she says...... Right now I'm pretty frustrated! I'm eating around 1200-1400 calories a day, and I've been the same weight for 3 months. It might fluctuate a couple pounds both directions but it certainly isn't going down. I'm still totally sold on this way of eating though, that won't change even if I don't lose another ounce.

    That Thermogenesis thing doesn't sound very fun......... I don't like being cold! I'd rather try cooking it off in a sauna than freezing it off in a cold bath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brennagough View Post
    I am a brand spanking new member here as of today! My husband and I got our Primal Blueprint book in the mail yesterday and have been reading and highlighting all kinds of things. We have been working out in the gym, but I find I prefer the treadmill over just about anything. How long before you started to see changes after going Primal?
    Good to see you here!

    How soon you see results will depend on about 7,648,329,759 different things, some of which are how closely you follow the guidelines, how much damage your body has to repair, age, stress levels, hormone levels and luck of the draw.

    Just don't get upset if your husband gets a head start on you. Seems like any kind of diet has men seeing results sooner than women do. Not fair, but reality. Also, if you're looking to lose weight, you might drop some water weight right away since you're not eating bread and pasta anymore. After that, you might feel like nothing is happening if the scale isn't moving. Ask your husband, and I bet he'll see a difference in your shape, even at the same weight. And frankly, I couldn't care less what the scale says, I care what my butt looks like!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitaRose View Post
    How soon you see results will depend on about 7,648,329,759 different things, some of which are how closely you follow the guidelines, how much damage your body has to repair, age, stress levels, hormone levels and luck of the draw.
    I think you forgot one...

    Quote Originally Posted by RitaRose View Post
    And frankly, I couldn't care less what the scale says, I care what my butt looks like!
    LOL! Because we are the only ones who see what the scale says...
    5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
    Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
    Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

    More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
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