Was Grok being stupid, or was he that smart? page 3

[thanatos]

But respect goes both ways...your post informed us that our opinions were all wrong and only yours was right..."you may not believe it but it's true"

You need to give respect to get some

[alg2435]

But respect goes both ways...your post informed us that our opinions were all wrong and only yours was right..."you may not believe it but it's true"

You need to give respect to get some

Then none of us would ever state our opinions if that's what respect is. What I mean by 'disrespect' is that people were acting a little, erm, uncivilized by using the words 'idiot' and something to the effect of 'monkey-brains'...

[Nekron]

Your monkeybrain apparently has a strange view of the word "uncivilised".
Its uncivilised to say "im right, you dont know but i am" based on retarded stories, me noticing your monkeybrain on the other hand is a simple observation based on the facts given by said posts.

[RitaRose]

To be honest, ALL of these posts were disrespectful, assuming the other person is a moron. You can't just throw in something equivalent to "You guys are all wrong and I'm unquestionably right" without expecting an argument, then get upset when people get annoyed. But I would hope there would be a better argument than "idiot", "monkey form" brain, "monkeybrain" and "restarded". Seriously.

Ummm God created us as we are now. Intelligent and masters of our world. I can't force you to believe it too, but it's the truth.

The curious man is asking question
The scientist is looking for answers
The idiot thinks he already has the truth.....

Isnt this perfect proof for the theory of evolution? I mean the brain of this person is obviously still in its original monkeyform.

Your monkeybrain apparently has a strange view of the word "uncivilised".
Its uncivilised to say "im right, you dont know but i am" based on retarded stories, me noticing your monkeybrain on the other hand is a simple observation based on the facts given by said posts.

And I'm saying this as a Christian, though maybe not the best example of one you could find. And yes, I'm a Christian that believes evolution is most likely true, though I still weigh evidence constantly, just like I do with everything else in life. Guess that makes me a freak all around.

[alg2435]

RitaRose: So true. I'm very sorry if what I said was offensive to any of you...should have thought over my word choices a little bit longer.

Please, continue with the intended discussion! It's a really interesting thread.

[sbhikes]

The narrator expounded that humans were the first animals that did not run away from (and fear) fire.

This is total and complete BS. I've walked through many forest fires and you know what? Animals run TOWARD the fire. Birds will be sitting in the trees like normal. Bears will come running in from all directions. Everybody's looking for the food that a fire brings forth. The pinyon pines explode from their pine cones. Little animals can't outrun the flames so birds of prey get easy meals. Insects have lost their homes and shelter and are easy pickings for other birds and animals. A forest fire is a feast for the forest animals, the ones that don't get burned up anyway. I'm betting that it was humans that learned from the other animals, being fairly stupid without cultural transmission of information, not the other way around as this stupid documentary suggests.

[catherine p.]

My point was not to be disrespectful but rather to express that there is no possible debate if someone says they already know the truth. And perhaps it is a little dumb to waste your time arguing with lesser beings that do not possess the truth ...

[caeliumspecto]

I agree with RitaRose on this one. As Carl Sagan so astutely put it, "The solution to a fallacious argument is a better argument, not the suppression of ideas." (<-- That's paraphrased, I didn't want to look up the exact quote.)

But basically, don't assume someone is an idiot just because they believe one way or the other. I was Christian most of my life. While I feel there is compelling evidence against it, I don't think becoming an atheist transformed me from a stupid person into an enlightened person. If anything, I just now have exactly one less flawed belief (assuming I didn't gain one.) The point is, everyone has something they believe in which is blatantly wrong. So don't judge lest ye be judged, yada yada yada.

[Misabi]

id say fire really did little for the survival of mankind, we just learned to use it in our adaptation/evolution

I'm just reading "catching fire" which takes the contrary view that the fact that our ancestors learned to use fire to cook food lead to giant leaps in evolution leading to modern mankind. Namely in the way that cooking food makes more easily digested, meaning they needed to spend a lot less time and energy grazing on hard to digest vegetation for more nutrition and also causing increases in brain size due to extra energy being available for brain development instead of being used for digestion of veg matter.

Also has interesting ideas on the advent of cooking being the basis of pair matching and emotional attachment between man and woman.
Basic premise being that once they started cooking those who cooked were at risk of having their food stolen by stronger others, so alliances formed and males protected females who in return would cook food for them, etc.

[sroelofs]

Aboriginals in Australia used to use fire to hunt. Start the fire and get the animals running from it. They used the technique so much that some theories posit that it's why most of Australia is a desert with no vegetation. Not sure how true that is.