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    There was a book that came out long time ago called The Jungle.
    Sorry everyone, I'm still on my Upton Sinclair rant.

    In 1906, in large part because of the firestorm Sinclair generated, Congress passed the famous Meat Inspection Act. A century later, American schoolchildren are still taught a simplistic and romanticized version of this history. They think that unscrupulous capitalists were routinely tainting our meat, and that the moral crusader Sinclair rallied the public and Congress to act. Government then shifted from bystander to do-gooder and disciplined the marketplace to protect its millions of victims.

    But this is a triumph of myth over reality, of ulterior motives over good intentions. Reading "The Jungle" and assuming it’s a credible news source is like watching "The Blair Witch Project" because you think it’s a documentary.
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    How does the government benefit from conventional milk production?
    Well, I don't know, but I know that the politicians enacting the pro-factory-farming policies often benefit heavily from "lobbying" (aka bribery) by industry representatives. That's plenty.
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    what you need to do, if you really mean business, is get a handful of your neighbors together and buy a cow. rotate the milking duties. you will always have your milk and it will be hard for the long arm to reach you. this would be ideal in some suburban neighborhood.

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    I'd love to try raw milk but unfortunately I live in a state where it's illegal to sell. It's crazy that I can access drugs faster than real milk.

    I personally don't consume much dairy -just cream in my coffee (and try finding cream that is just regularly pasteurized not ultra-pasteurized!), butter and the occasional Greek Yogurt after a workout. However, the family still wants it. The best I can do is the non-homongenized creamline whole milk that comes in glass bottles. My kids won't let me buy regular whole milk after tasting it.
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    Well you all can drink the conservative koolaid and live in a world where giant corporations decide what is best for you and simultaneously hide all their nasty little details from you so you have no idea what they've done and what mystery chemical from what mystery source is the cause of your mystery illness. I'd rather have some kind of oversight of the corporate system and also the freedom to buy stuff outside the corporate system that I think is better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbhikes View Post
    Well you all can drink the conservative koolaid and live in a world where giant corporations decide what is best for you and simultaneously hide all their nasty little details from you so you have no idea what they've done and what mystery chemical from what mystery source is the cause of your mystery illness.
    Right like in China where they found melamine in the milk and the guy responsible got his head chopped off?
    Or like in the US where the FDA declared that melamine is not harmful for infants?

    Just who is drinking the koolaid when you get your facts from a lifelong socialist?

    "He is hysterical, unbalanced, and untruthful. Three-fourths of the things he said were absolute falsehoods. For some of the remainder there was only a basis of truth." -Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive) on Upton Sinclair

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbhikes View Post
    I'd rather have some kind of oversight of the corporate system and also the freedom to buy stuff outside the corporate system that I think is better.
    The oversight you seek can be done better privately. Ever heard of Underwriters Laboratories? Nobody would put an electronic product on the market without going through UL inspection. Snell does safety helmet testing above and beyond DOT regulations. All private. There's plenty of other consumer advocacy/protection organizations like Consumer Reports. MDA is essentially a private consumer advocacy group.

    If you want to protect your power as a consumer, you have to understand monetary policy. We vote everyday with our dollars. Unfortunately, it's constantly being devalued.
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    Conservative Koolaid????? i'd call that an alexander "DUM AS" in our house.

    The one thing that libs and progressive forget is that people vote with their dollars. It is in a company's BEST interest to make sure their products are safe. Otherwise they go out of business. In a technology ripe environment today, bad news goes viral instantly. When buisness takes advantage, it usually bites them in the ass.


    Case in point today. I belong to an art guild. our email addresses are for interpersonal use only. Some DUM AS didn't read the rules and started sending out promotional emails. They will loose a lot of relational business as the other members say something. You can apologize, but once transgressions are made, customers tend to move on.
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