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    Some questions.

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    from what i understand, primal lifestyle doesnt consist so much distance running, if even at all.
    Some time ago i opened a thread where i said i run 3 times a week and some people here were suprised and said that running 3 times a week pushes your body too much and puts it in alot of stress..
    But there are alot of people around the world who runs alot, and i dont get why is it bad for you.
    for example you probably all heard about the Taraumara indians who are superathletes and are running alot every day from their early childhood to old age (even at late 80's).
    they are a tribe who have been living this way for centuries if not more and are considered one of the healthiest communitis in the world.
    Maybe I miss understood the comments that people wrote here, but i realy dont get how running for long distances puts stress on your body if alot of people pretty much run for very long distances every day for their whole lives.
    Another thing is, it doesnt seem to me like their main energy source is fat.. i know just a bit about their nutrition so maybe im wrong but from what i understand maybe 80% of their nutriotion is vegan.. so pretty much alot of carbs, not so much fat and "in the middle" protein.

    Theres not a real question here.. i just want someone to put a little sense in my mind.
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    its because the mind set for PB is to burn fat. when ur doing endurance for long periods of time u wont be burning fat it would switch over to carbs for fuel. it falls under chronic cardio. basically when u run and are pushing ur heart past 60% which is fat burn zone. at least thats my take on it.
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    It's the heart rate that's important.
    If you can run around for hours with no end in sight (like I used to as a teenager with a TON of energy) and then just stop running and your heart rate is immediately to resting rate, there is nothing wrong with enjoying running.
    A lot of african tribes (and american indians before white man started feeding them) run for miles a day, usually it was a messenger that ran from town to town to deliver news (AZ american indians).

    It's forcing yourself to keep doing it when your body clearly says 'no' is when it's bad. When you're having an argument with your own brain that "you can do it", that's what makes it bad. If you run and your brains telling you :" Wheeee, this is funnnn!" ... all is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saarx1 View Post
    from what i understand, primal lifestyle doesnt consist so much distance running, if even at all.
    Some time ago i opened a thread where i said i run 3 times a week and some people here were suprised and said that running 3 times a week pushes your body too much and puts it in alot of stress..
    But there are alot of people around the world who runs alot, and i dont get why is it bad for you.
    for example you probably all heard about the Taraumara indians who are superathletes and are running alot every day from their early childhood to old age (even at late 80's).
    they are a tribe who have been living this way for centuries if not more and are considered one of the healthiest communitis in the world.
    Maybe I miss understood the comments that people wrote here, but i realy dont get how running for long distances puts stress on your body if alot of people pretty much run for very long distances every day for their whole lives.
    Another thing is, it doesnt seem to me like their main energy source is fat.. i know just a bit about their nutrition so maybe im wrong but from what i understand maybe 80% of their nutriotion is vegan.. so pretty much alot of carbs, not so much fat and "in the middle" protein.

    Theres not a real question here.. i just want someone to put a little sense in my mind.
    There are all kinds of outliers. While they may be useful, they may not be.

    There is a difference between functional running at a lower heart rate or running for a time, or for an eating disorder. One is healthy, the other not.

    You can be primal and high carb, and even primal and "80% vegan" if the other 20% is meat. Primal is low toxin, not low carb.

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    Why is pushing your body far bad for you?
    I mean even in primal lifestyle you should sprint once in a while.. and from my experience in sprints i can say that you do need to push your body in order to have a good sprint excersice.
    I mean, yes you can have an excersice of like 3 sprints and then its not hard but from my time training i had sprint excersices in which i did 30-40 sprints in a row (all of them were also in a deep sand uphills which makes it like 500 times harder) with minimal resting between them (first few sprints no rest at all, then few seconds, but basicly very minimal rest).
    You cant do such an axercise without pushing your body out of its comfort zone.. still dont get why it is bad for you.. sure, u feel like crap but life in nature arent easy..
    a quote from G.I. Jane- "wild things never feel sorry for themselves, if they do, they die".. or somthing very similar to that.
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    you must be ready to hunt the antelope

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    Quote Originally Posted by saarx1 View Post
    Why is pushing your body far bad for you?
    I mean even in primal lifestyle you should sprint once in a while.. and from my experience in sprints i can say that you do need to push your body in order to have a good sprint excersice.
    I mean, yes you can have an excersice of like 3 sprints and then its not hard but from my time training i had sprint excersices in which i did 30-40 sprints in a row (all of them were also in a deep sand uphills which makes it like 500 times harder) with minimal resting between them (first few sprints no rest at all, then few seconds, but basicly very minimal rest).
    You cant do such an axercise without pushing your body out of its comfort zone.. still dont get why it is bad for you.. sure, u feel like crap but life in nature arent easy..
    a quote from G.I. Jane- "wild things never feel sorry for themselves, if they do, they die".. or somthing very similar to that.
    Keep reading different posts from Mark and others regarding this. Mark isn't against running, but wearing your body out by constant steady-state cardiovascular activity that increases stress hormones, damages joints via repetitive strain injuries, causes/exacerbates inflammation, etc...

    Typical long-distance running is too fast for you to burn fat, but too slow for you to build fast-twitch muscle. Walking will give you a good cardiovascular workout, burning fat and improving your aerobic capacity. When you raise your efforts past a certain level, you are no longer performing aerobic exercise, because your body can't take in enough oxygen to keep all your muscles supplied. This is called anaerobic exercise, where your muscles start burning the glycogen stored in them. To replace this, you need carbohydrates, which often leads to eating lots of sugar and processed foods. The extreme end of this effort is sprinting and lifting heavy things.

    So yes, you do need to push your body out of its comfort zone in order to stimulate improvements. The benefits you get from steady-state cardio can be achieved more effectively and with less stress and problems to the body by saying with the extremes of effort- as hard as possible for a short time, and a long time spent moving at a slow pace. The middle area is where the problems arise.

    Even hunting an antelope can be done at a very low pace, little more than a trot, as long as you can sustain it for hours and not lose the trail. There's no way to sprint down an antelope, but you can walk them into exhaustion.

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