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    What CAN I eat?

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    So in the process of coming up with a new menu for myself I am running into some concerns. My goal is to try and get 100% of the RDA of vitamins and minerals without resorting to supplements but whenever I try I find that I have to resort to eating vegetables that either impair thyroid function (I have hypothyroid) or might cause inflammation (peppers, tomatoes), or are fruits which kick my carbs up too high.

    Eliminating those lists leaves most vegetables off the table.

    I thought about consuming liver on a daily basis but there seems to be a high risk for chronic vitamin A toxicity if I do that.

    So how do I eat healthy without killing myself?

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    I can't answer your basic question, but you should know that any vegetables that impair thyroid function do so only when eaten RAW. Thus, avoid spinach salad, but enjoy your cooked spinach. Cooking renders all those veggies safe for hypothyroid folks (I have Hashi's myself).

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    Quote Originally Posted by emmie View Post
    ...any vegetables that impair thyroid function do so only when eaten RAW. Thus, avoid spinach salad, but enjoy your cooked spinach. Cooking renders all those veggies safe for hypothyroid folks (I have Hashi's myself).
    Awesome! I was starting to get worried about some of my regular veggies, but I usually steam or sautee.

    I don't have an answer for the OP, but I'm in a similar boat with what to eat when I can't have nightshades, eggs (suspected), dairy, or beef (at least not grain fed - might be my corn allergy).

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    Don't take this the wrong way, but why are you doing this?
    RDAs are not universally agreed, and vaguely point to absolute minimum levels. Maybe.
    A carrot will have different nutrient levels depending on soil and growth conditions...and are you going to seriously measure every scrap of food?

    Having said all that, have you looked locally to see if there are any "off the record" vegetables? So here in the UK I'll be growing samphire and sea kale and strawberry-spinach - none of which I've seen in these RDA databases

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    It's not just the nutrients you ingest that are important, but also how well they are absorbed and utilised. Paleo/primal tends to improve nutrient absorption through bioavailable sources (animal foods), a reduction of antinutrients (phytic acid for instance), by increases co-factors of absorption (vitamin D, fats) and by healing the intestine (less harmful lectins, gluten-free). Utilisation is also improved: a fat based metabolism, and getting AA, EPA, DHA and amino acid derivatives (such as glutathione and taurine) directly from animal foods decreases the need for B vitamins.

    The RDA is the amount of a nutrient required so that 95% of the population is not deficient in it. They make this assumption using the SAD and all its problems.

    Vitamin A toxicity only exists in the context of sufficient vitamin D and K2. If the vitamin A to D ratio is close to 3:1 you're doing well.

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    If you eat clean Primal foods, including a moderate amount of various plants, you're not going to be deficient. I really wouldn't worry so much.
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    I have thyroid issues, too, and the only one my doc told me to avoid was seaweed/kelp, the rest are fair game. Although my body isn't very happy when I feed it nightshades (bell peppers mostly, sad cuz I love 'em, and cucumbers & tomatoes make my bones angry if eaten to frequently).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Bork Bork View Post
    I have thyroid issues, too, and the only one my doc told me to avoid was seaweed/kelp, the rest are fair game. Although my body isn't very happy when I feed it nightshades (bell peppers mostly, sad cuz I love 'em, and cucumbers & tomatoes make my bones angry if eaten to frequently).
    I thought the iodine in sea veggies was supposed to be good for thyroid problems. Now I'm confused.

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    I guess if your thyroid is OVERactive then iodine would be bad? But yeah, I've always heard that kelp is great for thyroid issues.

    And I'm pretty sure that the correct vitamin A : vitamin D ratio is 10:1.

    I eat liver nearly every day - not a ton, maybe 75g or so? and I notice when I DON'T that I get little bumps on my arms. I think some people may need more vitamin A than others, but a bit of liver every day isn't going to harm you regardless. Remember that vitamin A from plant sources isn't actually vitamin A, it's a precursor, and it won't be converted unless it's needed - so you're not going to OD on vitamin A from carrots. I've heard that if you eat too many you'll turn orange because the beta carotene isn't converted to vitamin A. (Fun party trick if you can stomach all those carrots. And no, apparently it DOESN'T just look like a bad tanning job.)

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    Dr. Weston A Price states that vitamin A is only toxic if there is no vitamin D to counter the toxic effects.

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