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    Does the 80% rule help or hurt?

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    I'm not sure if it works for me. I like that I don't have to feel like I've screwed up if I eat a scoop of ice cream, in the past I would have beaten myself up, told myself I'd fallen off the wagon, and kept on eating badly. With the PB, if I eat something non-Primal, it helps me to know that that was my 20%, and that I am still compliant, I don't beat myself up and I get back on the plan. The problem is that after about 3-4 months eating Primal and doing really well, I find myself making more allowances- eating more fruit, larger servings of dark chocolate, more almond butter, a few spoonfuls of my kids' fruit smoothies, and it's all adding up. I'm having trouble reining it in, and I think that if I hadn't started letting my diet slide knowing that I was still in the 20%, if I had stuck strictly to the eating plan, I wouldn't be battling my sweet cravings again, which I had beaten for 8-10 weeks. What has your experience been, do you ignore the 80% rule, or is it what keeps you sticking to the PB?

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    It helps people getting on the boat I think. The other 20% is starting to paddle.

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    What Mark says is try for 100% but if you get 80% or more, you are doing ok. If you try for 80% you usually end up at 60%. Try for 100% but don`t beat yourself up when it isn`t.

    Generally I would say I am 95%+ compliant and being that compliant helps rein me in and stops me from having cravings.
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    Dean Dwyer of Being Primal allows himself 3 planned cheat meals per week. He has rules like the cheat meal/snack has to be eaten as a separate meal/snack with atleast 2 hrs between meals, no more than 70g carbs, total carbs for day not to exceed 150g. He found it better then a one huge cheat meal.
    http://www.beingprimal.com/wp-conten...o-cheating.pdf

    Just introduced to his blog. He has some interesting thoughts/tips etc for dietary lifestyle.

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    I stick to a 95%-5% rule. So I might have 30 grand 85% dark chocolate once a forth night or half a pear with some cheese once a week. I'm still very mindful of what I put in my mouth. If I let it slide the cravings will return over time and I can't afford that to happen again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKC View Post
    What Mark says is try for 100% but if you get 80% or more, you are doing ok. If you try for 80% you usually end up at 60%. Try for 100% but don`t beat yourself up when it isn`t.

    Generally I would say I am 95%+ compliant and being that compliant helps rein me in and stops me from having cravings.
    Exactly. At Primalcon, Mark made quite a point of saying how he didn't like the 80/20 thing getting interpreted as an excuse to slack off. It is meant for those little things that come up in life that are beyond your control. Like you go to a friend's house and she has put canola oil in the salad dressing or you go out with friends for Asian food and there may be a bit of sugar in the peanut sauce. You don't need to be a social douche in those kinds of situations in order to stay 100% strictly Primal. But save it for those kinds of things.

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    It helps people getting on the boat I think. The other 20% is starting to paddle.
    Completely. It's like training wheels.

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    My 20 percent is that I live in a city and breathe the awful air. Sometimes, if I run out of well water, I'll drink tap water. And date night, where I eat ONE non-primal meal. 20% is not a cheeseburger, or a sugar bomb. It's the fact that we live in captivity.
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    my 20% is eating store bought meat vs grass fed. eventually i strive to be 100% but im not letting it bother me right now
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKC View Post
    What Mark says is try for 100% but if you get 80% or more, you are doing ok. If you try for 80% you usually end up at 60%. Try for 100% but don`t beat yourself up when it isn`t.

    Generally I would say I am 95%+ compliant and being that compliant helps rein me in and stops me from having cravings.
    This. The 80% rule does not mean that you should plan to have a 20% non-primal diet. It's more of a psychological backstop to keep you from beating yourself up if you fall off the wagon a time or two. You can't be perfect, but you have to do the best you can and not deliberately slack off on a regular basis.
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