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    homade stock- chicken beef or pork. basically its rendered fat [i break the bones to cook out the marrow]
    onions?
    carrots?
    Farm raised fish [secondary question, is there a primal fish breading?]

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    Quote Originally Posted by huntingohio View Post
    homade stock- chicken beef or pork. basically its rendered fat [i break the bones to cook out the marrow]
    onions?
    carrots?
    Mark's got nothing against any of those—nor really should anyone. All fine.

    Farm raised fish [secondary question, is there a primal fish breading?]
    Yeah, that's problematic. I think Mark specifically mentions preferring wild-caught in the book.

    At any rate there are reasons why farmed fish are not ideal. First, their food may be unsuitable for them (so, for example, they may have wrong omega-3/6 balance.) Secondly, they may be fed dyes to colour the flesh. (Have you noticed how organic farmed salmon is pale in colour unlike wild salmon but "conventionally" farmed salmon is dark in colour like the real wild stuff? That's because the "conventionally" farmed salmon is fed dye.) Thirdly, the fish are often crowded into pens, which is unhealthy. Fourthly, to try to mitigate that they're fed antibiotics, so there may be antibiotic residue in their flesh. (Is it necessary to add that antibiotics, while lifesavers in some critical situations, are slowly revealing themselves as probably one of the major causes of ill-health?)

    Not all farms are the same. I've heard people in the U.S. say to avoid Chinese farmed fish (don't think those are on sale in the U.K., but apparently they are in the U.S.). The U.S. gets quite a lot from South American fish farms and those are said to be generally better but often more intensive that is ideal. The Scottish fish farming practices are said to among the best. There are organic standards for fish farming but I don't know what they consist in. In general, wild-caught will always be best.

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    Oh, and keep your eyes open for this:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/26/bu.../26salmon.html
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    Ok so a few more

    raisins?
    frozen veggies?[the kind that only list vegetables on the label]
    what fruits?

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    Have you read the book or any of the information available on the main MDA site?

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    Quote Originally Posted by huntingohio View Post
    Ok so a few more

    raisins?
    frozen veggies?[the kind that only list vegetables on the label]
    what fruits?
    dried fruit is not an optimal choice, but okay as long as there aren't a whole bunch of other additives.
    I buy frozen veggies all the time
    all fresh fruit is fair game in moderation
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    Quote Originally Posted by marqueemoon View Post
    Have you read the book or any of the information available on the main MDA site?
    I have actually but specifically he refered to berries on fruit, was wondering if grapes were considered berries. I only ask because berries are going out of season and will be harder to find and pick.

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    cool, I was just asking in case you hadn't since there's a ton of info available there.
    Grapes are indeed a type of berry. But if you don't have a problem with the carbs, you don't have to avoid all fruit entirely or stick only to berries if you'd like to eat some other type of fruit instead. Don't worry about that.

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    Homemade stock is mega-primal. I guarantee Grok made that shizz as soon as he figured out the whole fire thing. I can't think of anything more primal than bone marrow. There's lots of good stuff from boiling bones too.

    Onions/carrots: sure. They're stuff you dig out of the ground. They ARE a bit more fast-carb/higher carb than most veg other than potatos and squash... but that's fine. I eat onions all the time.

    Farm-raised fish are better than no fish, but wild is preferable. But there is a $$$ consideration there. I think the whole free-range v. conventional grain-fed thing is kind of splitting hairs. Just eat some meat and fish. But I know some people feel it's not primal unless it's wild, free, etc.

    These are people who are willing to burn more money at the grocery store than I am. But it's a personal decision.

    Raisins: What other people said. Dried fruit is okay, but not ideal. Fresh grapes are better.
    Frozen veg: better than no veg. Less ideal than fresh veg. If they are frozen with no added crap... eh, that's pretty okay. I have frozen berries in the winter, just because the fresh ones get super-expensive.
    Fruits: There is a hierarchy here. Best fruits are berries, apples, pears, etc. Mark has a list of the best fruits in his book. I remember citrus being okay, but not ideal. Melons also okay, but not ideal. I can't remember what the verdict on peaches and nectarines is, but I'd imagine they are at least acceptable, if possibly not ideal. Dates and so on are very carby, but that's still better than refined sugar crap.
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