technically, LC should get a person into NK right? Maybe not super deep, but I believe we have seen that that is only important for treating cancer. Any NK should reap all the benefits, and any LC should get you there. Now, if we are keeping our carbs and our proteins to the prescribed limits and only adjusting our fat, that should do it. Also, I believe that very low calories also helps get into NK or at least severely reduces BS. I would think that JUDDD would get you out of NK if you ate crap, but I don't see why we can't use it to get into NK when not eating crap.